{"id":102942,"date":"2019-03-27T13:14:16","date_gmt":"2019-03-27T20:14:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/?p=102942"},"modified":"2019-03-27T14:57:36","modified_gmt":"2019-03-27T21:57:36","slug":"indiana-jones-and-the-temple-of-love-an-interview-with-ken-jones","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/102942-indiana-jones-and-the-temple-of-love-an-interview-with-ken-jones","title":{"rendered":"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Love | An Interview with Ken Jones"},"content":{"rendered":" \u00a0 \n

Kevin McMillan and Ken Jones, 2010\u00a0\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

Editor\u2019s Note: This article was originally published in Vol 28 Issue 4 of the print New Day Herald, March 2015. The article is used in the new Joyful Transitions PTS class brought forward by Carol Jones. Many of us were witness to the beautiful, powerful process of our friend Ken Jones\u2019 passing from this world in 2010, and the way he and his wife Carol engendered support from the MSIA community at the time. Kevin McMillan interviewed Kenny for the NDH when he was in the process of his illness.<\/p>\n

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My friend Ken Jones and I spoke in he and wife Carol\u2019s cozy bedroom at Prana. We chatted while Carol did email in the background and David Sand snapped some photos.<\/em><\/p>\n

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K.M.<\/strong> So Ken, I\u2019ve known you a long time. Helen Bradley and I picked you up at the airport when you first moved to Prana 15 years ago.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> At which time, I don\u2019t know if you remember, but we predicted that you might be a good match for Carol.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> [Laughs] I heard about that! Yeah, I flew in from Kauai where I\u2019d been living for 6 years, when I found out about the (PTS) Masters Program, and I said wow, that\u2019s for me! So I called up and applied, got accepted for the Masters, and then I found out that if you\u2019re a Prana resident you can take the Masters for free. This was a time when the construction was going on after the Northridge earthquake, and there was a lot of noise and dust, and clamor, and people\u2014you know living at Prana wasn\u2019t very popular then\u2014so it was pretty easy to get accepted as a resident. Then I had to get rid of a whole lot of stuff so I could move, and came with a great big shipping crate full of my old stuff, and put it down there on the basketball court, and moved in. Moved in right across the hall from Carol, and no, I didn\u2019t know that you were doing matchmaking, but I was doing my own matchmaking, and so was she. Because I was casting a hook out there, say- ing man, I\u2019ve had a bunch of relationships that haven\u2019t worked out, I want a Soul Initiate, it\u2019s time… everything else I\u2019ll take, but I want a Soul Initiate. So, that\u2019s what I put out, and we discovered each other.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> And then how long later did you guys marry?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> A little over a year. As part of my (Prana) church service I had to volunteer, and so I chose three different paths to check out and see what I wanted to do. And one of them was assisting Carol with her PTS work. I\u2019d go down to her office a couple of nights a week for a couple of hours, and started creating some custom databases. I would assist her doing her work, and so we got to have a lot of conversations and got to know each other, and heck\u2014it was just the following month, wasn\u2019t it Carol, at Thanksgiving\u2014that after the Thanksgiving meal which we both helped prepare, we went into the large seminar room with everyone else to watch a movie, it was something like Little Buddha, and we sat next to each other and held hands. And that was the first time we expressed any affection for each other. That\u2019s when we started dating, and that was I guess our first date. But anyway, that was how that relationship got started. K.M.: And then I remember I sang at your wedding at Prana.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Yep.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> And you and I come from towns in South Carolina about 30 miles away from each other, but we never knew each other until Prana.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> And now we\u2019re continuing the journey. So I\u2019ve known you a long time, and right now I\u2019d say that you seem more radiant and clear, and loving and balanced, than I\u2019ve probably ever seen you.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> I\u2019d say that\u2019s true as well. This has been a time for consciousness as well as physical clearing, and cleansing and purging and forgetting and forgiving, and letting go and loving unconditionally. All that\u2019s been going on. So it is indeed a fantastic\u2014not just a blessing\u2014but the answer to a lifelong prayer, to clean out and get with what\u2019s real, and be the spiritual being that I am, the divine soul that I am. I\u2019ve said those words before, but now it\u2019s coming from a place of realness and conviction. I know that\u2019s it because the rest of the crap\u2019s pretty much gone. [Laughs]. Every day is just so beautiful, and I\u2019m so grateful.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> So what would you like people to know about what you\u2019re going through right now?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> My change of life started back in June (2009) when I had a stomach pain and went to the emergency room on my doctor\u2019s advice, and found out the melanoma that I had to have surgery for back in 2000 had come back and metastasized through quite a few of my internal organs. It was a shock and a surprise. Melanoma\u2019s a very aggressive type of cancer, and very deadly usually, so the doctors wanted to do some further scans and tests, and found out that that\u2019s indeed what it was, and suggested that I\u2019d better get chemotherapy starting tomorrow. Well, somehow I had already found out that chemotherapy doesn\u2019t work with metastasized melanoma. All it does is over-tox the liver and kill you. I mean, it does reduce the tumors temporarily, but it gives you maybe one or two months\u2019 more life, that you supposedly wouldn\u2019t have had if you hadn\u2019t done the chemo.<\/p>\n

They said surgery and radiation were out of the question, so the only option was chemo. But that\u2019s partly because those are the only three legal options that doctors can offer in California anyway, so I didn\u2019t have any other choice, and they don\u2019t know anything else. I had a friend who advised me to look into Gerson Therapy, which is based on hyper-nutrition and de-toxification through organic vegetable juices. You bring the body hyper-nutrition, and drive the toxins out of the cells and into the bloodstream, and then use coffee enemas to allow the toxins that collect in the liver to flush out on a daily basis. Keeps the liver healthy. I just did a blood test yesterday. My liver and kidney functions are almost normal, and I\u2019m here into… this is the seventh month I guess, and I don\u2019t have any neurological symptoms, although I do have brain tumors. The melanoma\u2019s gone into my brain, and heart, and lungs, and digestive system, and who knows where else it could be? And I\u2019m suspecting that it\u2019s in my prostate; I know it\u2019s in the gall bladder too, ribs, pelvis, and one other… can\u2019t remember the other organ\u2014but there\u2019s another one affected right now as well. So it\u2019s kind of a race for time.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> I\u2019ve been seeing you pretty regularly the last few weeks, and just from the outside, I don\u2019t see you in a lot of discomfort. Of course, I\u2019m sure there could be times that I\u2019m just not seeing it, but is there much pain?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> No pain.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> No pain?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> No pain. My oncologists are quite puzzled, not only by why I\u2019m still alive, but why I\u2019m not in pain, why I\u2019m not suffering, why I can still stand up and walk around, have a good time talking to people, and be pretty much functional. How is this possible? Well in my opinion it\u2019s the Ger- son Therapy that\u2019s keeping me alive right now, but it looks like, in spite of the Gerson\u2014which has benefited me tremendously\u2014the melanoma is still the overriding thing going on, and it\u2019ll eventually take me down if I don\u2019t do anything differently; through seizures, or a heart attack, or something like that. So, you know, facing that very real prospect, I\u2019ve had tremendous counseling, and blessing and comforting from John Morton\u2014and J-R\u2014 but John Morton has personally addressed my situation several times, and reminded me that what\u2019s the big deal, we\u2019re all taken care of by the Traveler anyway, and everybody\u2019s going to let go of their body at some time or another, in some way or another. It\u2019s temporary baby, for everybody! So you just let it go and you go into God\u2019s arms with the guidance and protection of the Traveler, and you float into the Soul Realm, and hey\u2014there you are baby, in a better place.<\/p>\n

So there\u2019s nothing to fear. For me, death has no more fear than going to sleep. You just let it go, and you go into something that\u2019s, well… here is very limiting, and constricted, and challenging, and requires constant vigilance and resourcefulness. And you move from that, into a place where there\u2019s this huge expansion of peace and joy and love, and wow, who wouldn\u2019t want to do that? So there\u2019s no fear here at all, and I\u2019m just enjoying every day to the maximum, and so grateful for all the love and the support, and good cheer, and the blessings, and the Light and love that people are sending me in all kinds of ways. And I\u2019m just soaking it in. It\u2019s really fantastic, and of course, it\u2019s a fantastic blessing to be living here at Prana, Peace Awareness Labyrinth and Gardens, where the energy is the best on the planet in terms of quality and purity of Light and upliftment and, wow!<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> So, what would you say to others who might be diagnosed with a similar condition?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Seek all the alternatives and take full responsibility for your own therapy, your own course of therapy, your own well-being, your own state of health. Listen to the doctors, listen to the alternative practitioners, gather information, but make your own decisions. Don\u2019t let any of them take authority over your health. That\u2019s what I did, and I\u2019m so glad and so blessed. I have orthodox doctors, and I have alternative doctors, and practitioners, and friends who are always suggesting things that might help, but I\u2019m making the decisions about how I do this. And it\u2019s a strength-building thing to do that.<\/p>\n

There are plenty of doctors that are curing cancer out there without chemo and radiation and surgery. I will be attending the Burzynski clinic starting soon for two weeks [February 8] in Houston, Texas, where they\u2019re doing advanced genetic research to clear cancer from the body, all kinds of cancer. They conduct FDA-approved clinical trials for this, so it\u2019s all kosher as long as they stay within certain guidelines and do certain protocols. But the main thing is that this Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski has come up with a way to alter the genetic make-up of the body, to replace genetic parts that are missing in cancer patients, and to remove parts of the genetic make-up that are causing the cancer.<\/p>\n

He calls it Antineoplaston Therapy, which is just a big word he made up that means anti-cancer. It has to do with modifying peptides and proteins into certain forms, first with injectable medicines to identify your proper course of therapy, then once they get that course set, they give you oral pills to take home, and check in with you once a month for three months, and make sure things are working and you\u2019re on course. It\u2019s very expensive, but fortunately, we\u2019re able to do it at this time. We\u2019re very excited about it, and we\u2019ll be flying out Monday morning with as much of our clinical gear as we can hide in our bags. [smiles] My bedroom\u2019s sort of turned into a mini clinic here.<\/p>\n

But we have the fantastic blessing of the assistance of Heartreach, which is assisting us in setting up volunteers in Houston, in the church, who will be doing this very valuable task for us\u2014shopping, cooking and juicing for us while we\u2019re there. A friend in the Dallas-Fort Worth area is putting that all together, and coordinating it for us. It\u2019s such a fantastic service that she\u2019s doing for us, because it\u2019s a lot of work, and it would be overwhelming for Carol to try to handle that and all of my immediate needs as well.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Speaking of Carol, I know that she\u2019s been an amazing source of love and support for you. What\u2019s it like to have that kind of love and support?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Wow. Beyond anything I had thought could be. I\u2019d heard about unconditional loving, heard J-R talk about it many times, and thought about it, and attempted it. And what I see every day is Carol demonstrating it. And I mean to the point where she wants to take care of me and make me well so much that\u2014I don\u2019t know\u2014sometimes it\u2019s hard to take it all in, but I\u2019m work- ing on that. The Loving Each Day (daily email quotes from John-Roger or John Morton) today talked about loving each other 100% in a relationship, and I see her doing that, day after day after day, loving me 100%. And I told her today, well I hope I am doing the same for her, and if I\u2019m not, I\u2019m certainly going to be looking for ways to bump my percent up to 100 for her as well. So, it\u2019s the sweetest, most caring, most caressing, supportive\u2026 she gives me the feeling that she would do anything to take care of me. She goes shopping, she prepares food, she tucks me into bed at night, and washes me, she gives me showers in the morning. I mean it is phenomenal what Carol has been expressing, and coordinating paid workers as well as volunteers to help us do everything possible to keep me healthy in the physical body so we can spend more time together. It\u2019s amazing.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> It\u2019s a beautiful ministry.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> It really is.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> And in my perception you guys\u2019 relationship is just so sweet these days.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> It is.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Speaking of taking care of your body, I know you\u2019ve lost a lot of weight. I wanted to ask, has the relationship to your body and the way that you see yourself and your body changed?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Well somewhat, you know, I can\u2019t help when I look in the mirror to see I\u2019ve lost 60 pounds. The melanoma is eating up my skeletal muscle, so each day it becomes a little more challenging to stand up and walk, because I get weaker. So that\u2019s why it\u2019s kind of a race against time to get to the Burzynski Clinic and get this therapy going, so we can reverse that and I can start, you know, exercising and building muscle back. It \u2019s not like I can\u2019t do it. When I was fourteen I had an operation on both my knees.<\/p>\n

They put me in a wheelchair for a month, and my muscles atrophied at that time, and I lost all the muscle tone. At the end of that period when I first stood up out of the wheelchair and tried to walk, I could only walk across the room and sit down. So it was starting almost from scratch, learning how to walk, and not just the muscles, but how to coordinate it. And it was a proud day when I stood up and walked across the room. And this would be very much the same, once the cancer\u2019s in remission, which in Burzynski happens pretty quickly. I can start building my muscle back and get my strength back, so I\u2019m looking forward to that. But it does affect my body image, is that what you\u2019re asking?<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Well, this may be just a projection, but I was thinking about this to ask you today. I know that for me, when I was in the hospital a while back, and I wasn\u2019t feeling well, and I was looking really pale and not well and had lost some weight, I just got the sense that I\u2019m really not my body\u2014 that became really clear to me.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Oh yeah!<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> That the body\u2019s just a vehicle.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Right, exactly. It\u2019s like when I stand up to walk, I\u2019m aware that I\u2019m walking something other than what I am. I\u2019m directing something almost like from above, you know, okay now we\u2019re going to make the legs walk, you remember how to do that don\u2019t you? You swing your arms, that\u2019s right, let\u2019s get it coordinated.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Like a marionette.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Yeah like a marionette, yeah definitely [Laughs].<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> We always hear about living here and now. A lot of philosophies talk about that. You told me at one point that because of certain factors in your condition, the doctors have told you that there was a potential that something could rupture… that you could pass away at any time. [K.J. Right.] So what\u2019s it like living moment to moment, day to day like that?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> You just take every moment as it comes. It\u2019s almost like being in combat, where there are bullets flying at you, and you don\u2019t know whether one\u2019s going to hit you or not, and even if one hits you, you may not know it. You just go on, you know? I watch these things on TV that show people being shot at, and I think, that guy acts like it\u2019s not bothering him. And I thought, well that\u2019s what this is like, That I could have an instant medical event\u2014a physical event that takes me out\u2014and again, so what? Big deal. You just relax and let go, and there\u2019s the Traveler, and you go.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> And really anybody could have that, it\u2019s just there\u2019s more of an awareness of it.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Not just an awareness, but a probability of it with me, rather than somebody getting hit by a bus walking out the front of Prana or something. That\u2019s low probability, but my probability is high that I\u2019ll be taken out soon, quickly. So that\u2019s there to contemplate, but I don\u2019t spend any time thinking about that. Big deal. That\u2019s a waste of time.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> It seems like you\u2019re just being grateful for the day and for right now. I notice you\u2019ve been doing a lot of, well\u2026[laughs] some shopping online, and getting some things that you like, ordering some awesome clothes, and collecting authentic handmade replicas of American Indian items.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Right! [Laughter.]<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> You see that? I got that bark quiver. It\u2019s an exact replica of one that\u2019s in the Smithsonian, and handmade arrows, to go with the archery bow that I carved from a piece of wood, and my darts, and yeah… having fun! My Indiana Jones outfit, my Western outfit, and we just ordered custom-made cowboy hats.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s so cool! Are you going to have them in Texas?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Yeah, they\u2019re going to send them to us on Valentine\u2019s Day, and then we\u2019ll wear them when we come back too.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Is there anything you\u2019d like people to know about the best way to deal with, or relate to, somebody with a situation like yours?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Well in my case, most people are very open and loving and glad to see me, and it\u2019s such a treat but, sometimes I see people looking at me like they don\u2019t want to talk to me, or they want to avoid me because I look so different. In fact, most people don\u2019t recognize me at first now.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Oh really?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> We bumped into some friends at the Co-op, and they didn\u2019t recognize me the first instant, and then \u201cOh, it \u2019s you!\u201d you know, that kind of thing. So, I don\u2019t look at myself as some sort of invalid, and I don\u2019t like it when people look at me that way. I don\u2019t like that image, because I don\u2019t feel crippled in any way. I feel whole. And just because my body\u2019s going through some challenges, that\u2019s not who I am. So it\u2019s better to have people just treat me like a regular person and have a conversation with me.<\/p>\n

I had the great delight recently to have a friend who\u2019s a doctor bring his family over and spend an hour with me, letting me talk about my process. He wanted his kids to see somebody who has a dangerous form of cancer, and how they\u2019re dealing with it, perhaps quite differently from other people. And that was a treat, I loved to be of service that way. I decided that there\u2019s not much I can do in terms of my ministry other than bring the Light and the love and the joy into people\u2019s lives the best way I can. And one way is to share like that with people about my condition, my process.<\/p>\n

Obviously, my brain function isn\u2019t suffering, my memory, my speech patterns, or any of those neurological things, so I can carry on a clear, consistent conversation with people. That\u2019s partly because of the meds I\u2019m on, and partly because of the Gerson Therapy. To allow me to focus on the joy that I have in my life right now, and to express that to people, is just such a treat, a blessing. My gift. [crying] My ministry.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> What a beautiful example of that.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Thank you. [crying]<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> And I really see you being a spiritual warrior.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> I am. I\u2019m a spiritual warrior I\u2019m discovering, you know? I\u2019m living the spiritual fulfillment that J-R promises, and I know that it\u2019s not complete in any way, but it\u2019s the process, and I\u2019m going through it, and I\u2019m discovering the inexpressible joy that goes with that unfoldment. And I can see when I do my s.e.’s and I chant my tone. It\u2019s like, I realized this morning there\u2019s a door in front of me with sort of spinning poles, and I have to get my poles spinning at the same rate as that door in front of me in order to go through it with my tone. That\u2019s why I do my tone, I have to bring my rate up with my tone to match the doorway that the Travel- er\u2019s holding open for me to get into the Soul Realm. And so I just do it, and it\u2019s so simple and innocent. I just say my tone and it happens. It\u2019s like magic! I don\u2019t understand it\u2014but, man, that feeling is from chanting my tone and I\u2019m there, and I know when I\u2019m there with the Traveler, and that I\u2019m matching that energy and I\u2019m going into it. But I just need to do it more, more S.E.s, more S.E.s. [Laughs]<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Like J-R says, more S.E.s. [Both laugh] So Mr. Jones, just a couple of more questions. Number one is, you seem to be getting better looking, how can that be?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Well, it\u2019s part of the physical clearing out process, there\u2019s an age regressing factor that starts coming into play, and you get younger and young- er, and your skin clears up, and your wrinkles disappear, you just become more and more beautiful, and to the point where I have to wear sunglasses to look in the mirror! [Lot of laughter]<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Can I quote you on that?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> You may! It\u2019s dazzling, I have to say!<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> It\u2019s good to be the king. So the last question. It\u2019s been just great to talk to you here, and so what is it you\u2019d like people to know about your life, and who you are?<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Oh, that\u2019s an interesting question, sort of like an epitaph? Let\u2019s see. Well, you know, I could say I\u2019m a loving person, a divine soul, who\u2019s enjoying every moment of life. I\u2019ve learned not to take anything for granted, simplest things can bring great pleasure, and you may not want to put this in the article, but just being able to get up at night and pee, and get back in bed. There are people who can\u2019t do that, and I am really grateful that I can, and so, you know simple things make a huge difference. Let\u2019s see. I am the eternal optimist. I see myself going to this clinic in Texas and clearing my body, not just bringing it back to a state of health, but with an entirely raised vibration, almost like ready for the induction of a higher form of consciousness to come into this body that\u2019s been so purified and cleansed, and you know, with no toxins or anything like that in it. So, I see myself coming out of this healthier than ever before.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Well, I\u2019m excited for you.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> Thank you.<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Thank you for sharing, I really love you.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> I love you too, and I really appreciate all the loving things, and the fun that we\u2019ve had, and the service that you\u2019ve provided me in various ways, and it\u2019s been a real treat, and a real intimate friend that I really cherish, and it\u2019s been great. South Carolina buddies!<\/p>\n

K.M.<\/strong> Okay, God bless you.<\/p>\n

K.J.<\/strong> God bless you too.<\/p>\n

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If you\u2019d like to hear more about the PTS class, \u201cJoyful Transitions,\u201d please email Carol at carol@msia.org.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Kevin McMillan and Ken Jones, 2010\u00a0\u00a0 Editor\u2019s Note: This article was originally published in Vol 28 Issue 4 of the print New Day Herald, March 2015. The article is used in the new Joyful Transitions PTS class brought forward by Carol Jones. Many of us were witness to the beautiful, powerful process of our friend […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":30,"featured_media":102914,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[263,257],"tags":[6441,5470,3466,6461],"class_list":["post-102942","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-community-spotlight","category-ndh-archives","tag-carol-jones","tag-death-and-dying","tag-interviews","tag-ken-jones"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102942","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/30"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=102942"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/102942\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/102914"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=102942"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=102942"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=102942"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}