{"id":110620,"date":"2021-08-04T09:47:58","date_gmt":"2021-08-04T16:47:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/?p=110620"},"modified":"2024-01-11T10:43:37","modified_gmt":"2024-01-11T18:43:37","slug":"questions-answers-the-inner-consciousness-is-the-traveler-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/110620-questions-answers-the-inner-consciousness-is-the-traveler-part-2","title":{"rendered":"Questions &#038; Answers \u2013 The Inner Consciousness is the Traveler &#8212; Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":" \u00a0 \n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"> <em>John-Roger, 1975.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>This Q&amp;A with John-Roger is sourced from a live Q&amp;A with John-Roger at Prana, Los Angeles, June 5, 1975.\u00a0 It is edited for use on the New Day Herald website.\u00a0 We recommend listening to the original.\u00a0 It was previously released as a September 2016 SAT seminar.\u00a0 If you are a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/shop\/product\/soul-awareness-teachings-sat-12-month-subscription\/\">SAT subscriber<\/a>, you can purchase it in our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/shop\/product\/questions-answers-the-inner-consciousness-is-the-traveler\/\">online store<\/a> or access it through <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/media\/videos\/show\/6164412308001-September-2016-SAT-%7C-Questions-%26-Answers---The-Inner-Consciousness-is-the-Traveler-%28June-%2775%29\/?search=inner+consciousness+is+the+traveler&amp;order=relevance+DESC%2C+created_at+DESC&amp;position=1\">That Which Is<\/a> online.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Question:\u00a0 Regarding earthquakes, what is the flow of energy that is released? What do earthquakes have to do with the Christ Consciousness and the return of the Christ?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Well first of all the Christ never left.\u00a0 And secondly, every time we have an earthquake it changes your consciousness.\u00a0 But the major earthquakes that are shifting the planetary flow are ushering back in great spiritual powers that are already present on the planet. \u00a0It\u2019s like people are saying, \u201cWe\u2019ve got to wake the kundalini.\u201d\u00a0 It&#8217;s already awake.\u00a0 It&#8217;s just you\u2019ve got to wake up that it&#8217;s there.<\/p>\n<p>And this same thing is taking place. People are being awakened to these energies that the Logo of the planet is holding in reserve.\u00a0 They&#8217;re there.\u00a0 They&#8217;re present.<\/p>\n<p>And the Spirit is being poured out to people just tremendously all over the planet.\u00a0 And the New Age vision is much like anything else.\u00a0 It depends upon your conditioning, where you&#8217;ve come from, what schools you&#8217;ve been taught in, what your own ambitions levels are, and then that primarily becomes a vision of your New Age.\u00a0 That of course is a real conditioned vision. And I really wouldn&#8217;t want to place too much stock in a conditioned vision because mostly it&#8217;s a person perpetrating their own energies against somebody else.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0\u00a0 I noticed that after seminars, either recorded seminars or seminars with you in person, I go into a very long, deep sleep and remember my dreams more often than other times.\u00a0 Can you explain what&#8217;s happening?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong> To answer the question I&#8217;ve got to do a little digression.\u00a0\u00a0 First of all we have what we call the awakening state.\u00a0 Then we have what we call a dream state.\u00a0 Then we have what we call a sleep state.\u00a0 Then there is a state beyond that.\u00a0 There are many beyond that but I&#8217;m just referring to this question.<\/p>\n<p>When you are in that beyond state, you then are formulating your dream as a part of releasing of karmic energy and you will bring back that total recall.\u00a0 When you are just in a regular dream state, when you wake up, you have other transitory things that have placed themselves there and you would not bring back the totality of it. There would be a lot of confusion.<\/p>\n<p>When you&#8217;re in that state beyond then, that is because you&#8217;ve received more energy that is coming from that state.\u00a0 It is bypassing directly the sleep state, the dream state, and the awake state.\u00a0 It&#8217;s bypassing it directly to you while I&#8217;m either present as a look, as a talk, or as just sitting here.\u00a0 It goes on.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t have to do anything.\u00a0 It&#8217;s like when the light is turned on it doesn&#8217;t have to know it&#8217;s on.\u00a0 It&#8217;s on.\u00a0 And it does what it&#8217;s going to do.\u00a0 And if people want to close their eyes, the light&#8217;s still on.\u00a0 See it makes little difference and that&#8217;s the process that goes on.<\/p>\n<p>This beyond state is called the fourth realm by a lot of people but it&#8217;s beyond the mind, beyond the emotions, beyond the body, it&#8217;s working out the karmic flows of energy.\u00a0 If you can bring that quality back with you into what we call this physical waking state, then you&#8217;re into a concept of realization.\u00a0 You won&#8217;t be caught up in the illusions any longer in those particular areas.\u00a0 But there are illusions above you that you have to watch out for, but that doesn&#8217;t matter as you go on anyway.<\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;re really saying, \u201cJ-R I don&#8217;t know how to do this thing you&#8217;re talking about and I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about because I\u2019m not into that.\u201d\u00a0 So therefore your question&#8217;s invalid in your state of consciousness.<\/p>\n<p>But when you&#8217;re in the Soul within you, and you&#8217;ve moved your awareness, your awareness is now out here at me.\u00a0 Do you understand what I am saying?\u00a0 When you have changed that and you moved back inside of you, and you&#8217;ve tapped the pure energy of your beingness, you&#8217;re in Soul but you may not know that.\u00a0 But there will be a joy that will transcendent.\u00a0 People may feel the joy from you more than you feel it being with you.\u00a0 They may feel it coming from you, because it&#8217;s awful hard for you to feel being a female, but a man may feel it really easy from you, you see?\u00a0 And we&#8217;re dealing with that type of a thing.\u00a0 It&#8217;s a very natural thing.\u00a0 And you can have it in either state &#8212; either in the above state looking down at it &#8212; or in the Soul consciousness itself.\u00a0 When you are in Soul consciousness and you know you&#8217;re in it, you can have it, and you can move the Soul levels around.\u00a0 It&#8217;s just bliss.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0\u00a0 I have a question on the semantics of oneness.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 If we are talking about the concept of oneness, what are we talking about?\u00a0 Are we talking about everybody being in the same pond, in the same water in the same pond?\u00a0 Or could some of us be salt water in pure water to maintain the type of individuality, and still yet be water so you&#8217;ll be in oneness?<\/p>\n<p>I think this is what your allegory is presenting.<\/p>\n<p>When we are speaking of a oneness, we are talking about a unilateral form, not bilateral.\u00a0 There are not two things present. There&#8217;s only one thing present.<\/p>\n<p>That one thing that&#8217;s present will be love.\u00a0 Gasoline is gasoline, but there are many different grades of gasoline.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s gasoline until it no longer is in that.\u00a0 When it no longer is in that it\u2019s no longer a oneness of gasoline.\u00a0 It&#8217;s now become something else.<\/p>\n<p>This oneness is a spiritual flow. For example, the air here &#8212; there&#8217;s a oneness in air. And yet we can individualize it by propelling it so that you could be aware of the individual flow of that.\u00a0 But as soon as that stops, then that becomes oneness again.\u00a0 We can take and put all sorts of things in the air, incense, odors to select portions of this oneness so you can have a personal identification with it.\u00a0 All that&#8217;s doing is a form of stimulation of your receptors to give you a form of identification.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a form of separation.<\/p>\n<p>As soon as you have to identify a \u201cthere\u201d and a \u201chere\u201d, it&#8217;s a state of separation.\u00a0 And when I look at you, I don&#8217;t see you there.\u00a0 I know you&#8217;re there because of your consciousness, but I see you here.\u00a0 You&#8217;re within me.\u00a0 My auric field has encompassed everything.\u00a0 There is no difference here.\u00a0 But I must leave a consciousness of peace and tranquility and oneness to come into individualized perceptions, to formulate a question, and to relay an energy to you that transcends the information. All I&#8217;m concerned about is the energy field.\u00a0 Because the information could be ham and eggs, ham and eggs, ham and eggs, ham and eggs, and the thing would take place the same way.<\/p>\n<p>But since you&#8217;re focusing out of a mentality, then I have to move into that, hold the mentality, place the energy through the mentality, transform it through your emotions into the body to stir this other level in there so you can feel it up flow.\u00a0 Now you&#8217;re waiting for a down flow.\u00a0 You&#8217;re waiting for the descending current.\u00a0 That&#8217;s already present.\u00a0 That is the oneness.\u00a0 It is present.\u00a0 As soon as we just breathe in we have a oneness of air, but a different utilization of that.\u00a0 If I do not separate you by saying you must breathe it this way or that way, do this, or do that, or do this, then I&#8217;ve not placed separation between us.\u00a0 I am allowing you the free use of your own space.\u00a0 That&#8217;s a oneness right there.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question continued:\u00a0\u00a0 So I will always be aware?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 You&#8217;ll always be aware.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question continued:\u00a0\u00a0 So there will never be a point in time when I will never be aware no matter what it is I need to be aware of?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0 No.\u00a0 There will be a time when you go to sleep, when you won&#8217;t be aware as you are now.<\/p>\n<p>But there will come a time when you will have a total consciousness on all dimensions.\u00a0 And you&#8217;ll just focus your conscious knowledge on the dimension you wish to be in at the point you are, but have total knowledge of all the other levels.\u00a0 It transcends the mind.\u00a0 While I&#8217;m looking at you I can see all these other people here, but they&#8217;re not doing anything, so why should I have to focus on that?\u00a0 But as soon as somebody raises their hand it\u2019ll pull my attention to it, and I will handle that in the way I handle it.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s not a disturbance.\u00a0 It is that flow.\u00a0 Then I just look at them.\u00a0 What they&#8217;re going to tell me is already present inside of me, or what they&#8217;re going to ask me.\u00a0 Then I can go as deep into it as I wish to.<\/p>\n<p>Most people when they ask a question aren&#8217;t really concerned with that answer.\u00a0 They want to know how do you do it, how do you do this?\u00a0 And the intellect often is just to hold that steady by way of a question.\u00a0 But while I was answering you, you were formulating questions again which isn&#8217;t fair.\u00a0 If you\u2019d let it go, I am answering those right along with you.\u00a0 As you were asking the questions I was answering with you.\u00a0 But the other people here didn&#8217;t catch the questions.\u00a0 They&#8217;re only catching one part of the conversation.\u00a0 It&#8217;s fair with me because I know why you&#8217;re doing it.\u00a0 \u201cI am going to do it whether it&#8217;s with you J-R or somebody else.\u00a0 I&#8217;m going to do it and that&#8217;s all I care about.\u201d\u00a0 You know, if you do it, you&#8217;re going to do it with me because that&#8217;s the one that&#8217;s doing it, not this body.\u00a0 It could come through that body or that one.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t care and this body sure doesn&#8217;t care.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0 Is there a relationship between consciousness or awareness and keeping your back in alignment?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Is there a connection between conscious awareness and body alignment?\u00a0 Yes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0\u00a0 What is the relationship?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 The relationship is if you&#8217;re out of line consciously, you&#8217;re out of line physically.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0\u00a0 Could you explain the term &#8220;the other side&#8221; in more detail?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 The term &#8220;the other side&#8221; is just referring to the invisible &#8212; that which is not physically apparent.\u00a0 There is no more detail to it.\u00a0 It&#8217;s invisible.\u00a0 That which is material is present.\u00a0 It will corrupt and decay.\u00a0 The other side is that which is invisible and has spiritual qualities, and will endure forever.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0\u00a0 Where do the UFOs come from and why are they here?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Well, they&#8217;re coming from a heck of a lot of different places.\u00a0 Primarily we&#8217;re getting them through a psychic warp and they&#8217;re coming in out of the psychic realms of the astral worlds.\u00a0 And they are formulating when they come in as nuts and bolts hardware.\u00a0 You can grab them, but they disappear really fast because they&#8217;re on a psychic frequency.\u00a0 But they can still leave the nuts and bolts.\u00a0 They\u2019re on a psychic frequency.\u00a0 That way they can come and go.\u00a0 They can be picked up on radar or not, it doesn&#8217;t matter.<\/p>\n<p>They&#8217;re coming in on the psychic frequency into this world where you can see them and the radar can too. And when they disappear, you can&#8217;t see them but neither can the radar.\u00a0 Then they&#8217;re back on the psychic frequency.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s how they propel themselves.\u00a0 It&#8217;s just psychic energy.\u00a0 You can think of New York and you&#8217;re there.\u00a0 It&#8217;s as fast as that thought.\u00a0 They can think of Venus and they&#8217;re there.<\/p>\n<p>Now there are some who are coming on a physical level, who have been coming for quite a few periods of time.\u00a0 It&#8217;s really difficult to say what it is because their time elements don&#8217;t match ours.\u00a0 Their planets don&#8217;t revolve, rotate like ours do.\u00a0 And a lot are coming in with a nuts and bolts consciousness out of the third kingdom. A lot of them are coming in through a parallel kingdom.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not Venus or Mars.\u00a0 It&#8217;s another kingdom.\u00a0 Primarily, we&#8217;d say with the way the psychic flow of energy is now, we should have a UFO increase all summer long until December.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0 Can you explain why sometimes during spiritual exercises it seems a lot easier to focus on a tone, and at other times it\u2019s like losing consciousness?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Yes, because those two things are different.\u00a0 And one is doing one at one time, and one is at another time.\u00a0 And in one, another time can be entirely different.\u00a0 How can you formulate something that is spiritual and set it into a path?<\/p>\n<p>That tone is an indicator, an arrow pointer for you.\u00a0 And once you climb the ladder, who needs the ladder?\u00a0 But what if you want to climb back down again?\u00a0 You need the ladder.\u00a0 These initiation tones are ladders.\u00a0 Rungs of the ladder.<\/p>\n<p>Once you&#8217;re standing still on the ladder there is no need to be aware of it.\u00a0 At that particular point the inner consciousness dissolves karma.\u00a0 The inner consciousness is the Traveler.\u00a0 All you&#8217;re doing is presenting yourself to have a more ready recognition of it, to become free, to let the confusions of the body, the emotions, and the mind just dissipate themselves.\u00a0 The value in doing these things often is just sitting down and being quiet and to quit stimulating yourself to let yourself know you&#8217;re alive.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0\u00a0 Is it necessary to know what&#8217;s going on?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Well if you have to have a bowel movement yes, it&#8217;s necessary to know what&#8217;s going on.\u00a0 As far as knowing if the sun comes up tomorrow, it&#8217;s already set.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0\u00a0 No, I mean, knowing you\u2019ve got all these questions?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Is it necessary to know about all these questions?\u00a0 As far as I&#8217;m concerned no, but then I know the answers to them.\u00a0 Maybe somebody who doesn&#8217;t, it would be necessary for them only in as much as it makes their mind stop questioning that, and that has a value.\u00a0 But I&#8217;ve never really found a mind that stops questioning.\u00a0 Once it gets going it&#8217;s an extremely, extremely vicious thing.\u00a0 But for the most part, on this planet, we&#8217;re just dealing in the body and desires, and thoughts.\u00a0 Body, desires and thoughts. And at some point you have to break that by realizing that you are more than the body and the desire and the thought.\u00a0 They&#8217;ve got to come from some place more, and we&#8217;ve done all sorts of techniques to show you where that more resides.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question: Have you said that the only thing you require to work with us is that we love you?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 I never did say that.\u00a0 I said that&#8217;s the only way I can work with you, but I don&#8217;t require that you love me at all.\u00a0 But if you want the work done, then that&#8217;s another story.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll teach you love.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll teach you what it is.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll demonstrate it to you every day.<\/p>\n<p>Love is not wishy-washy.\u00a0 Love is not necessarily kind or unkind.\u00a0 Love is what is necessary in that moment of unfoldment.\u00a0 Just substitute the word \u201ctruth\u201d for \u201clove\u201d.\u00a0 Substitute any other word you want to there.\u00a0 It&#8217;s the same process.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0 I get the impression from what you\u2019ve said in the past that the Traveler consciousness has never come through women? Why is that?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0 What&#8217;s a woman?\u00a0 There is no such thing as a female or a male.\u00a0 Those all are illusions for this level.\u00a0 The Traveler is not sexual in any sense of the word.\u00a0 It&#8217;s coming through everyone in the room.\u00a0 It&#8217;s present.\u00a0 It&#8217;s in everyone that&#8217;s present.\u00a0 It is in everything at all times.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0\u00a0 In the Discourses it talked about the basic, the conscious and the high self.\u00a0 What is it that when I close my eyes and I say &#8220;I am&#8221; what is that relationship to the Soul?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 The Soul is the energy unit that produces all these other activities of the basic self, conscious self and high self.\u00a0 So we get three shots at getting into the Soul.\u00a0 We can get into the Soul by going out and do everything in the world, everything, totality.\u00a0 We can get into the Soul by yogic processes of turning the consciousness back in.\u00a0 Or we get in the Soul by going into the higher consciousness, the thousand petal lotus, or the high self.\u00a0 And by getting into that we just move across into it.<\/p>\n<p>But after you&#8217;re into it, you still can&#8217;t transcend the Soul until that energy has been activated from Soul Level consciousness.\u00a0 You&#8217;re just as trapped.\u00a0 So it&#8217;s the activating of that energy that is the key to whole releasing process.<\/p>\n<p>Now when you sit back inside of yourself and you say &#8220;I&#8221;, what are you talking about?\u00a0 Primarily, the unconscious kingdom, &#8220;I&#8221;, the God of the unconscious kingdom.\u00a0 Because you don&#8217;t know who that is that speaks.\u00a0 When I say &#8220;I,&#8221; I know who speaks.\u00a0 It isn&#8217;t ego that speaks.\u00a0 It knows who it is that speaks.<\/p>\n<p>You keep working to get the energy and prepare yourself because you may stumble into it, like a crap game.\u00a0 You may luck out and hit it.\u00a0 And you try everything.\u00a0 You hit every angle possible.\u00a0 You don&#8217;t leave one open.\u00a0 You don&#8217;t think, \u201cOh, this is it and that isn&#8217;t,\u201d because that may be it.\u00a0 To say, &#8220;This is it,&#8221; is a confusion.\u00a0 And to say, &#8220;That isn&#8217;t,&#8221; is stupidity.<\/p>\n<p>You just say, \u201cI&#8217;m going to see what it is.\u00a0 I&#8217;m going to keep going and I&#8217;m going to find it.\u00a0 If it&#8217;s there it&#8217;s there, and I&#8217;m going to find it.\u00a0 If it&#8217;s behind me I&#8217;m going to be turning around.\u201d\u00a0 There&#8217;s no panic.\u00a0 There&#8217;s no rush.\u00a0 But you don&#8217;t have to go anywhere because it&#8217;s present.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Question:\u00a0 How would you enlighten us to deal with confusion?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John-Roger:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0 Confusion is a process of separation of me here and you there.\u00a0 Therefore you&#8217;re always attempting to find out what is out there.\u00a0 You want to occupy that space.\u00a0 It&#8217;s very natural for humans to want to occupy space, to have it.\u00a0 But you know you can&#8217;t occupy it physically.\u00a0 And emotionally there may be a desire to occupy it, and mentally there would be an attempt to occupy it.\u00a0 But the closest you could get to it would be a psychic flow where we would just unite, and your thoughts and my emotions would all be intertwined here.\u00a0 But that still wouldn&#8217;t do it for you because that would calm things down only for a while\u00a0 But then you would become very familiar with that and therefore you would move that back into the confusion.<\/p>\n<p>You see, part of the thing of unfolding into the Spirit is to have reference points along the way.\u00a0 Now, if I extended to you a miraculous occurrence and moved you into it, before too long you would unconsciously move right back into this other thing, or you would move this familiarity up to this other thing and make it what you are now, God, total consciousness with confusion around you.<\/p>\n<p>Soon as you start saying, \u201cHey, I recognize it,\u201d that&#8217;s confusion, because you&#8217;re ending with a goal and a goal.\u00a0 Where do I go?\u00a0 And because it&#8217;s goal-goal oriented, then there is this static of contraction of pulling in.\u00a0 &#8220;I want them both,&#8221; and you grab and you lose both of them because then it&#8217;s back here.\u00a0 You don&#8217;t know which way to go.<\/p>\n<p>Let go.\u00a0 Start on one.\u00a0 It&#8217;s like, \u201cWhat if I make a mistake?\u201d\u00a0 It won&#8217;t be the first one you&#8217;ve made, nor the last one.\u00a0 But if you&#8217;re making the process of correction, and you see that you&#8217;re going on the rocks with that mistake, you say, \u201cSorry.\u00a0 I thought this is where I&#8217;m going, but it&#8217;s over here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But then it could put you on the rocks.\u00a0 But if you&#8217;re on the rocks you at least you know what they are.\u00a0 Then when that starts again you&#8217;ll say, \u201cNo.\u00a0 That takes me to the rocks.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not going into that.\u201d\u00a0 That&#8217;s not confusion, that&#8217;s action.<\/p>\n<p>Confusion is primarily emotional reaction that floods the mind with too many areas of choices.\u00a0 Write them down on a piece of paper &#8212; positive and negative for each choice.\u00a0 Write them down and cross them out and see what you come out with.\u00a0 If they&#8217;re the same, throw a dart.\u00a0 If it hits one you don&#8217;t like, you&#8217;ll know it and you say, \u201cI didn&#8217;t like it.\u201d\u00a0 Then go to the other one you liked anyway.<\/p>\n<p>What we&#8217;re doing is that confusion is entering into greed.\u00a0 \u201cWhat if I miss out?\u201d\u00a0 This is really where the thing that is under there. That&#8217;s just the emotions and the mind and the ego trying to assert itself.\u00a0 It&#8217;s going to fail because it can&#8217;t do it.\u00a0 And anybody who helps you do it is helping you promote yourself to failure.\u00a0 Somebody who says, \u201cHey, no. Look, I&#8217;m not going in that with you,\u201d you may think they don&#8217;t love you.\u00a0 But after you go in there and you get all the muck and mire and turn around and come back out and they say, \u201cHi, how are you?\u201d\u00a0 You say, \u201cThank God you stood by.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s called holding the Light.\u00a0 You may not want to go into it by saying, \u201cLook, I don&#8217;t know what it is.\u00a0 I have too much concern.\u00a0 I&#8217;m just not going to enter into that.\u00a0 I&#8217;m going to stay right where I am.\u00a0 I&#8217;m going to hold.\u201d\u00a0 And you just sit right there and you breathe in, you breathe out, and you breathe in, you breathe out, and it will then be brought into your consciousness.<\/p>\n<p>The flow will come in more and more and you&#8217;ll identify it intuitively.\u00a0 It just comes in.\u00a0 \u201cI know now.\u00a0 I just know.\u201d\u00a0 The reason you didn&#8217;t know before is maybe there was no answer.\u00a0 Maybe there were too many variables out there that were forming this matrix for you to flow to, and it wasn&#8217;t set when you were urging it, sensing that it was coming.\u00a0 And the timing wasn&#8217;t right then.\u00a0 So you may say, \u201cWhat if I miss it?\u201d\u00a0 That matrix is going to flow until you hit it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h4>End Part 2.\u00a0 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/110640-questions-answers-the-inner-consciousness-is-the-traveler-part-3\">Click here<\/a> to read <em>Questions &amp; Answers \u2013 The Inner Consciousness is the Traveler &#8212; Part 3<\/em>.<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/110605-questions-answers-the-inner-consciousness-is-the-traveler-part-1\">Click here<\/a> to read <em>Questions &amp; Answers \u2013 The Inner Consciousness is the Traveler &#8212; Part 1<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This Q&amp;A with John-Roger is sourced from a live Q&amp;A with 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