{"id":110923,"date":"2022-03-02T13:53:15","date_gmt":"2022-03-02T21:53:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/?p=110923"},"modified":"2022-03-02T13:53:25","modified_gmt":"2022-03-02T21:53:25","slug":"memories-of-john-roger-and-the-trip-to-india","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/110923-memories-of-john-roger-and-the-trip-to-india","title":{"rendered":"Memories of John-Roger and the Trip to India"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My husband Keith and I met John-Roger in April of 1968 at a live home seminar in Somis, Ventura County in California, at the home of Lillemore and Gene Anderson.\u00a0 Lillemore had been at the first J-R seminar in Santa Barbara at Muriel Engel\u2019s home.\u00a0 We were a small group of about 15 to 20 people.<\/p>\n<p>Pauli McGarry (now Sanderson) and Phillip Anthony accompanied J-R.\u00a0 Phillip did the recording on a reel-to-reel tape and would play the music from \u201cSpace Odyssey\u201d which came out in 1968.\u00a0 We needed to be in our chairs by the time the first bars of the song were over.\u00a0 Kind of like musical chairs. It was fun. The group was small and we each had a chance to share and ask questions.\u00a0 We learned different techniques like the water meditation, candle meditation, seeing auras and started chanting the OM and then later the HU.\u00a0 I had no idea who J-R was, only knew that I didn\u2019t want to miss a seminar.<\/p>\n<p>I had a Light Study with J-R that June and he came to Camarillo to do that.\u00a0 He took measurements of my head first and used that as a jumping off place to start the reading.\u00a0 It was written on a paper that had bars to record and chart my traits.\u00a0 He also recorded the Light Study on a cassette.\u00a0 He told me about former Karmic lives that I had lived and traits that I came in with to better know myself.\u00a0 J-R then scheduled a follow-up Light Study in the Fall.\u00a0 He kept a very small appointment book in his pocket to do his scheduling.<\/p>\n<p>The year before I met J-R, I had a Life Reading by Neva Dell Hunter in 1967 that I found very accurate and interesting.\u00a0 Neva Dell was a metaphysical teacher and practitioner who offered karmic readings, aura balancing, and who founded the Quimby Light Center in Alamogordo, New Mexico.<\/p>\n<p>In 1968, Neva Dell came back to Santa Barbara and I was given the opportunity to have a follow-up to my Life Study with a Light Study with her.\u00a0 I debated whether to do this because I was studying with J-R.\u00a0 I decided to do it and was given an address in Santa Barbara for that purpose.\u00a0 When I knocked on the door, who should answer it?\u00a0 J-R did.\u00a0 Boy, was I surprised!\u00a0 It turned out to be Muriel Engel\u2019s home.<\/p>\n<p>When I went in to have my Study things would be going great and then I would think, \u201cI wonder if this is alright with J-R\u201d.\u00a0 Neva Dell would hesitate in the reading and say something like, \u201cGod bless you\u201d and then would continue as I allowed it in my consciousness.<\/p>\n<p>After the reading, I was invited to sit with J-R, Phillip, Muriel Engel, and I think Pauli was there too, as well as Jack Reed.\u00a0 I was told later that J-R had known Neva Dell and had done some work with her on aura balancing.<\/p>\n<p>It wasn\u2019t long after our 1968 Light Studies that our sons, Marcus 7 and Charles 4, had Light Studies too at J-R\u2019s home in Baldwin Park.\u00a0 Charlie was fascinated with J-R\u2019s bed and was allowed to go up and down, forward and backward on it.\u00a0 Exciting stuff at age 4.\u00a0 Maybe that helped prepare him for the future roller coaster ride of working at NOW Productions with Phil Danza and others!<\/p>\n<p>Eventually, J-R gave seminars in Sandy and Kurt Lander\u2019s home in the Valley, then Wanda Mansbach\u2019s home and then David Georgio\u2019s home with many of the seminars in his back yard.\u00a0 We went to the Light Castle as well.<\/p>\n<p>In October 1972 Keith and I had the good fortune to be in India with J-R, Phillip Anthony, Wesley, Michael Sun, Bob Tackney, Beverly Terrell, Muriel Engel, Mark Holmes, Tom Johnson, and Jeri and Bob Silver. Previously we had been invited by our friends, Herb and Carol Daly, to go with them while they traveled India and then were going to visit the Ashram in Puttaparthi to meet Sathya Sai Baba.\u00a0 I had this strong desire to go on this trip when I heard that J-R would be there.\u00a0 Keith said he wouldn\u2019t be going, but when he heard that I decided to go he decided to go to protect me.\u00a0 Thank God!<\/p>\n<p>We were encouraged to go by our friends Jeri and Bob Silver who were in our home for a taped seminar.\u00a0 We decided to go on the part of the trip when the Daly\u2019s would be at Sathya Sai Baba\u2019s Ashram in Bangalore and J-R would be there as well.\u00a0 We decided to go to India on Thursday morning.\u00a0 I called J-R and asked if that would be alright.\u00a0 He approved and then we went full-out.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking with Mark Holmes 42 years later, I learned that Mark had a similar experience.\u00a0\u00a0 We decided to act \u201cas if\u201d it would work and be content with the results.\u00a0 We didn\u2019t have passports so I took papers to Los Angeles on Thursday and the person in line ahead of me wanted to get his passport for a trip he was taking 2 weeks away.\u00a0 He was turned down.\u00a0 I thought well, guess this trip is not to be.\u00a0 When my turn came I told her we were leaving Monday night and she said o.k., I could pick the passports the next day.\u00a0 Wow!\u00a0 I rushed home, found out what shots we needed, yellow fever and small pox, found a doctor who could give them to us, had our shots, found out the name of the Indian travel agent, called him and drove to Los Angeles Friday to pick up our passports, drove to the Travel Agent and paid for and picked up our tickets.<\/p>\n<p>Saturday, I asked our babysitter if she could take care our boys while we were gone and she agreed.\u00a0 She was a mature woman and we knew they would be safe with her and our family.\u00a0 I worked as a Dental Hygienist two \u00a0days a week and found a substitute for the three weeks we would be gone.\u00a0 Keith found a Chiropractor to take over his practice and I went shopping to buy a mumu to wear in India.<\/p>\n<p>Then my mother was recovering from a minor operation and was in the hospital in Santa Barbara.\u00a0 I called her doctor Saturday night and he was reassuring that it was OK to go.\u00a0 I called my Aunt and asked her if she would be there when my mother went home and she agreed.\u00a0 With my mom\u2019s OK, between my dad and my aunt, mom was taken care of.\u00a0 What a great family!<\/p>\n<p>On the way to the LA airport we stopped at the store and bought 3 big jugs of water.\u00a0 This was before the age of carrying water bottles.\u00a0 Monday night we boarded a non-stop plane from Los Angeles to Paris and J-R and staff met us at the airport in Paris.\u00a0 We traveled the Metro with our luggage, trunk and water bottles to a small, intimate hotel called Hotel St. Marie not too far from the Louvre.\u00a0\u00a0 We had a lovely dinner at a small restaurant in the upper room.<\/p>\n<p>We left the next morning on Air France stopping at Tel Aviv, Israel; Tehran, Iran and then on to Bombay, India.<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\">INDIA<\/h4>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRIndiaGroup1080.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110928\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRIndiaGroup1080.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1080\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRIndiaGroup1080.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRIndiaGroup1080-300x222.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRIndiaGroup1080-1024x759.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRIndiaGroup1080-768x569.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRIndiaGroup1080-600x444.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"> <em>John-Roger with the group in India. Muriel Moore at front center.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">My most lasting and unique experience on our trip to India was having the feeling of being completely and totally encapsulated in layers and layers of Light.\u00a0 It was a feeling of Absolute and Complete Protection.\u00a0 I have to laugh because I had a headache on the day of our departure which quit instantly when we boarded the plane. \u00a0Perfect health and wellbeing stayed with me until we again disembarked in Los Angeles three weeks later when I again picked up my headache.\u00a0 It seems that expansion of my \u00a0consciousness had been accelerated due to our India trip.<\/p>\n<p>First thoughts upon driving around in Bombay&#8211;\u201cNational Geographic&#8211;its come alive!\u00a0 The ox carts are moving, the people are talking, and I can smell the warm unmistakable earthy aroma that is not unpleasant, but must be only peculiar to India.\u00a0 It\u2019s three dimensional.\u00a0 It\u2019s all around me!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The excitement and dread of my first night in India.\u00a0 Cement floors, bare bulbs, tin washtub for bathing, no screens on open windows, overhead revolving fan, canopy mosquito netting over the bed and no sheets.\u00a0 Covering myself with my own coat, like a security blanket because it was my own and familiar.<\/p>\n<p>The heavenly taste of hot strong Indian tea mixed half and half with hot, frothy milk in a pitcher, with plenty of raw sugar.\u00a0 Small tree-ripened bananas, papayas, orange juice, chapati and chutney.<\/p>\n<p>Much to my surprise, I felt a very real meeting ground, on a silent level, with those Indians that we came in contact with.\u00a0 As a whole, my impressions were those of a calmness and gentleness displayed by the people.\u00a0\u00a0One met the exceptions as we do in our country, but I truly felt a peace which I didn\u2019t interpret as apathy but as acceptance and a general feeling of good will.\u00a0 This may in part be colored by my feelings of being enfolded in Light, but whatever, those are my lasting impressions.<\/p>\n<p>The little boy, Gida, on the beach of the Indian Ocean with a sparkle in his eyes.\u00a0 He would rub his tummy and say, \u201cNo mamma, no papa\u201d, and beg for money.\u00a0 Only to be caught up short in a later conversation when J-R asked where his mother was and he replied, \u201cAt home\u201d.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think he saw it as lying, only as part of his job!<\/p>\n<p>The sadness as one is greeted in Bangalore by a young boy of about twelve who is totally blind.\u00a0 The uncanny gentleness of his touch as he passes by, finding his way.\u00a0 The word spread from the taxi drivers that this little boy really needed the help.\u00a0 The tears that spring to my eyes when I \u00a0see the sweet joy on his face as I secretly press some coins in his hand.\u00a0 Secretly, because we might be overwhelmed by other young beggars who are better able to fend for themselves.\u00a0 A shadow in my heart as I see him walk away into the dark by himself, up a lonely road, without even a stick to guide him.\u00a0 A \u201cGod bless you\u201d and \u201cI\u2019m sending the Light to you for your Highest Good, wherever you are, whatever you are doing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We slept on the floor of a porch.\u00a0 Awakening in the Ashram was a beautiful experience.\u00a0 Hearing the runners in one\u2019s sleep, chanting in counterpoint to other runners in the commune.\u00a0 Drifting back to sleep until sun up when one went noiselessly to be blessed by Baba as the sun rose and he stood silently on the balcony.\u00a0 A multitude of people, but one could have heard a pin drop.\u00a0 A beautiful way to begin the day.<\/p>\n<p>Previous to that, I went to a store that specialized in sari fabric.\u00a0 It was so colorful.\u00a0 I would point to one and the man flung it out in a sweeping gesture until there were fabrics on fabrics.\u00a0 A beautiful display, it was a rainbow of exotic hues.\u00a0 I chose one and then they measured me for the little top that is worn with it.\u00a0 Coming back in two hours to pick it up; sewn by a little Indian man sitting cross legged on the floor with his sewing machine.\u00a0 Wearing a sari for the first time, giving a questioning look to an Indian woman at her door at the Ashram.\u00a0 \u00a0Gesturing, how the heck do I put this thing on?\u00a0 A gracious smile and kindly hands winding, patting, and pulling in mysterious ways and finally a finished product.\u00a0 Feeling somewhat self-conscious when appearing before the others and hearing a gracious comment from the ever perceptive John-Roger, saying something like, \u201cYou really look very natural in that sari.\u201d\u00a0 Feeling very grateful for his perceptiveness.<\/p>\n<p>Watching J-R, knowing his spirituality, but being constantly astounded on how beautifully he handles and moves around in the physical.\u00a0 Boy, can he ever handle his 10% !!!!<\/p>\n<p>The encounter between J-R and Baba\u2014feeling that much went on that I didn\u2019t know about\u2014perhaps may never know about\u2014but was curious to know about!<\/p>\n<p>Baba was small, giving the appearance of being larger, graceful, gentle and impish.\u00a0 The most surprising thing to me was his sense of humor, and that I could respond to.\u00a0 The astounding moment when Baba manifested rings, necklaces, pendants, statues, candy and sacred ash.\u00a0 Seeing it, mostly believing it, and being equally astounded that my own innermost response is one of \u201cThat\u2019s really interesting, but it doesn\u2019t really matter, I like him anyway as a person.\u201d\u00a0 Which is pretty nonchalant at best!<\/p>\n<p>Sitting on the steps of our quarters and having, what were to me, informal seminars by J-R.\u00a0 No words to express that one.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRMarkHolmes1080.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110930\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRMarkHolmes1080.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1080\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRMarkHolmes1080.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRMarkHolmes1080-300x222.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRMarkHolmes1080-1024x759.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRMarkHolmes1080-768x569.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2022\/03\/JRMarkHolmes1080-600x444.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"> <em>John-Roger in India, Mark Holmes in the background.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Plenty of words to express the plumbing system at the Ashram.\u00a0 A raised platform, two pieces of wood shaped like feet on which to squat over a hole in the floor, no flush system except a pitcher of water.\u00a0 A real experience.\u00a0 As I said before, \u201cThe earthy fragrance of India.\u201d\u00a0 Treating our Basics to the luxurious Hotel Ashoka after the Ashram.<\/p>\n<p>The naturalness of coming out of the Hotel Ashoka at any time of day and knowing that our own taxi driver would be there without ever verbally making any sort of agreement.\u00a0 Never asking the price of a fare, but always being treated fairly.\u00a0 The luxury of having him stay with us while we \u00a0were shopping, following us around, taking care of our packages in the taxi.\u00a0 The complete trust, the satisfaction in knowing it was deserved.\u00a0 The little thing inside that tickled with delight finding out he was a Muslim and fasting between sunup and sunset!<\/p>\n<p>I saw Princess Hermilla at the Ashoka hotel.\u00a0 I had met her previously at a tea that was given for her by a friend in Ventura.\u00a0 She was wearing a sari and I was wearing a pants suit.\u00a0 When I saw her at the Ashoka Hotel in India, she was wearing the pants suit and I was wearing a sari!\u00a0 Buying an oil painting of turbaned Indian man eating fruit.<\/p>\n<p>Being awakened by J-R ever so gently and softly as I lay sleeping on a bench in a Bombay airport.\u00a0 That is probably not as good as what it might be to have the memory of his coming to take you off to the Soul Realm, but it must come close.\u00a0 Leaving Bombay on a humorous note &#8212; when we went through customs the men went to one side and the women went through a curtain behind which there were two Indian women in their saris sitting in the lotus position on a raised platform.\u00a0 We had to lift our skirts and the women would then giggle<\/p>\n<p>Commenting on the plane to J-R that it would really be neat if we had Bhajans to sing in MSIA and J-R saying that Michael had started to work on that.\u00a0 My thinking, what a great idea that was!<\/p>\n<p>The sadness of parting with J-R and the boys at the Paris airport as they left for New York and we left for London.\u00a0 The preoccupied look in J-R\u2019s eye as we said \u201cgoodbye\u201d and he said something like, \u201cUntil later.\u201d\u00a0 It helped to cut the cord we placed by the joy of being close in the physical.<\/p>\n<p>A heavenly trip, never to be forgotten.\u00a0 As I read once, \u201cA memory that lingers forever after is a wonderful blessing.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My husband Keith and I met John-Roger in April of 1968 at a live home seminar in Somis, Ventura County in California, at the home of Lillemore and Gene Anderson.\u00a0 Lillemore had been at the first J-R seminar in Santa Barbara at Muriel Engel\u2019s home.\u00a0 We were a small group of about 15 to 20 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