{"id":112913,"date":"2026-07-08T16:48:48","date_gmt":"2026-07-08T23:48:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/?p=112913"},"modified":"2026-07-08T16:48:48","modified_gmt":"2026-07-08T23:48:48","slug":"john-roger-gems-from-1989-90","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/112913-john-roger-gems-from-1989-90","title":{"rendered":"John-Roger Gems from 1989-90"},"content":{"rendered":"

I say, \u201cGo check it out.\u201d If it’s part of your level of concern, deal with it. If it’s not part of your level of concern, get away from that area and get to what is your concern and get on purpose with your life. <\/em>– John-Roger<\/p>\n

These \u201cgems\u201d from John-Roger were first published as an article in the print version of the New Day Herald in November of 1990.\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n

I learned how to send the Light. And it went. I saw it go. And it did it. I was thrilled to think that I could participate in that. Well, now you know why I like to do this work. Because we’re dealing in real magic. Not sleight of hand. Not woo woo. Oh yeah, maybe some woo woo. Real woo woo. Enough that when we’re starting to have experiences in the inner worlds we say, \u201cI had this dream.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nWashington, DC, May 1990<\/p>\n

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You don’t have to go out and share the love to the world. It will flow through you. Your peaceful countenance of Spirit will transform. We just share the information with people. We don’t tell them to believe or disbelieve, but to check it out for themselves. I never tell anybody, \u201cBelieve my experience\u201d and how wonderful and great it was, because they may not have what I have. They may get something better, or worse. But I say, \u201cGo check it out.\u201d If it’s part of your level of concern, deal with it. If it’s not part of your level of concern, get away from that area and get to what is your concern and get on purpose with your life.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, May 1990<\/p>\n

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Never rush into things in this world. Bring your mind. Bring your heart. Bring your emotions. Bring your intuition. Bring your Spirit. Sit down with some friends, get a couple of enemies and then you start to find the truth of it. But even truth can’t be dealt in because it’s too ephemeral. Truth is a perception; truth is a vision. It’s what you see, and that’s why it’s an ink-blot world.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nAsilomar, November 1989<\/p>\n

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You better be in touch with your Spirit. Better be in touch with your Soul. You better know what that mind is thinking and doing. You’d better understand how your emotions flare and how they come up and bother you inside so that you can at least find ways to use those to your advantage.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, May 1990<\/p>\n

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Desire doesn’t hurt. Desire is a good feeling. Attachment doesn’t hurt. That’s good too, because you’re getting a lot out of it. Detachment hurts, and that’s the moment of the suffering. People say, \u201cI want to bring this thing to an end in a good way.\u201d \u00a0Things don’t end in good ways. They end because they’re not good anymore. They end in bad ways and you’re just hoping to salvage as much goodness out of it as you can.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nAsilomar, November 1989<\/p>\n

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Way back there at those times, you closed your Spirit down because of hurt. When you sense that people whom you love are hurt or being hurt or going to be hurt, that Spirit is shut down, and so there’s a grief form in there. It hasn’t grieved itself to let go, to open again. But it’s a very simple method of opening. All you have to do when you’re in that is have somebody who loves you touch you. When you think back to any of those times, you can reach over to your husband, if you’re in the car, and just grab his hand and hold it for a minute and let that open up the Spirit. You’ll know it’s open because it starts to get warm and full in there. And you may find tears come up. You may find sadness comes up with it, and you may find that goes on for a period of time until that comes clean from you. It’s like a cancer falling off.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nLiving in Grace PAT, March 1990<\/p>\n

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These people don’t know of your spiritual inner awareness and your movement and your karma and what you’re going through, and they add unto you their fields of karma and their thoughts and feelings. Do them a favor. Get up and walk out. For you to stay there and corrupt yourself and blame them is to tie the same thing around your neck.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, May 1990<\/p>\n

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You get up and you look in the mirror and you go, \u201cHello, Jesus. What’s new? Anything you’d like me to know today?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

He goes, \u201cBrush your teeth first.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cJesus, do you have to be so practical? I mean, couldn’t you tell me about some cosmic event?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

He goes, \u201cYeah, you’re here. Also, use deodorant.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cLord, is there anything else?\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cYeah, treat your kids nicer and treat your spouse nicer.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, May 1990<\/p>\n

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You’re awakening yourself. In a sense it’s like saying, \u201cThe dreamer is awakening.\u201d It’s the hard shake that wakes you up. Nevertheless, it’s awakening. That doesn’t mean that you won’t experience some anxiety, that things are just going to be perfect from now on, because you’re still heir to the things of the body. Just inside, beyond all the emotional psychological things, there’s something that goes, \u201cI’m okay.\u201d I would listen to that one. Even though your evidence points that you’re not okay, I would just deny the evidence as being the reality against, \u201cI’m okay.\u201d I\u2019ve walked away from a lot of people that I thought I would never walk away from because I had to stay with the \u201cokayness\u201d of it. I could have been pliant, I could have been kind, I could have done a lot of things, and I would not do that, because I was sure that if I did, that would go between me and the Lord. I wouldn’t chance it. It’s better to send them away, mad if necessary, than to get them between you and the Spirit.<\/em><\/p>\n

It’s hard, but when you’re there and you’re in that contact, people want to come and be around you because they feel this transmission. It comes right through the form. People then want to become part of it. Others want to stand out and cuss it and pull it apart, pull it down. Fine, you don’t even do anything with those. You don’t get angry with them or upset.<\/em><\/p>\n

– \u00a0John-Roger
\nAsilomar, November 1989<\/p>\n

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When I first took on this job I thought, \u201cSelling cars that don’t work would be easier than to try to tell people about Soul Transcendence when there’s no way I can prove it. There’s no way I can do anything to describe it.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

They said, \u201cThat is not your job. Your job is to present the information, and the Spirit of God will do the rest. Cooperate.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

And I said, \u201cThat’s easy.\u201d Then I get up here and say, \u201cI don’t have anything to say.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

\u201cIt doesn’t matter what you say, we’re going to ride the words into their ears and into them and they will open and they will hear the upper things anyway. And over the years you will learn to do it better and better and better. It’ll look slicker and swifter and faster and surer, but don’t think for a minute, J-R, think that you’re doing it, because you’re not.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n

The same Spirit that’s in me, is in you. Souls are individual expression, and in that, I must salute you. And when I see that, all the things of the personality are forgiven. All the behaviors, good, bad, whatever, they’re just forgiven. I say, \u201cThat’s not what we’re doing. We’re doing Soul Transcendence.”<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nWashington, DC, May 1990<\/p>\n

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I remember a lifetime when I was taken to see a great master in India. On the way over I was in the back of the boat and other people rowed. They put wreaths and garlands around me and decorated me because I was the king of the boat. They helped me up the mountain, and they carried all my packs and everything. When we slept, they fixed everything. Then I got to meet the master, he initiated me, and on the way back I carried the bags, I rowed the boat. I couldn’t believe it. But on the way back I remember somebody else came along, and we were sitting in the back of the boat and rowing, and I was laughing because on the way back that person was going to row. From that point I’ve just never got it inside of me that one is greater than the other, it’s just that we’re all doing different things at different times. At times when I fall people pick me up, at times when they fall I pick them up, but we’re all rowing the boat because we’re all in it. And it’s just that we all smile with the knowledge that the new one that comes in and thinks they’re so wonderful and great, they’re going to be part of the ordinariness before long because the master reduces us to ordinariness, which is just that prior condition to God.<\/em><\/p>\n

When you get to a certain place and you see the wonder of it all, it really does humble you. You immediately realize you’re serving the God form in many things and so you just go on about your business. There are many people who won’t like us when we do that.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nLiving in Grace Retreat, March 1990<\/p>\n

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Spirit will open your spiritual eye for you when you are indeed ready to enter into it. It will open it. Yours is to make yourself available to recognize it when it’s open. And so, as the old saying goes, you sit at the feet of the Lord and look all day at his eyes in case he glances your way. And that’s going to take a lot of patience. At the same time, it moves very fast. It never moves by when we’re focusing upon discomfort. When you’re focusing upon the comfort of what you’re looking for it goes by very, very fast.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nLiving in Grace Retreat, March 1990<\/p>\n

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A person told me that the definition of a cult is just a group of people without any political power. I thought about that and thought, well, the army brain-washes people to do what they say, to march when they say, to fight and kill what they say, and they’ve got the power to enforce it. Do you know what kind of power we have to enforce it when people don’t do what we want? Nothing. I thought, maybe we should have a penitence stock where they put their head through and then everybody gets to go and kiss them on the cheek until they can’t stand it.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, May 1990<\/p>\n

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The difficulty you’ve had in your relationships is you’ve closed down your Spirit. When people close their Spirit down, you might just as well get up and walk out of the room unless you’re going to do what’s necessary to open their Spirit back up again. A person who closes it down rarely knows how to open it back up. It’s very, very rare. They’ll maybe try alcohol or drugs to try to open it up. Or they’ll go out on a sex binge to try to open it. And the best way is to go to somebody whose Spirit’s open and let them touch you. It’s just a transmission of the Spirit and they start to open again. And hopefully that would be a counselor who also could then talk to you about how you close yourself down so you can at least guard against it. If it happens again, you go back in and have them reopen again and reopen and reopen, until one day you just refuse to shut your Spirit down to anybody.<\/em><\/p>\n

When you shut your Spirit down it’s death in there. I know what it feels like too. I’ll bet everybody in this room knows what it feels like. And we don’t like that. We’d much rather have it open and that’s why we’re here doing this.<\/em><\/p>\n

But you can’t run around the world to every religious group trying to find somebody to open your Spirit. Ultimately that’s your responsibility. You can keep your Spirit open by not throwing your brains away, not throwing away critical thinking. Throw away mentalizing and throw away negative thinking. You get those out of your way and go for the positive focus. Critical thinking is a good spiritual path to follow. Take your brains with you into a relationship, not just your body and emotions, and then a lot of hope.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nLiving in Grace PAT, March 1990<\/p>\n

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Q: There are times when I keep thinking that’s it, I’ve blown it. But you always forgive me and you’re just always there.<\/em><\/p>\n

J-R: Well, I do care. And I didn’t judge you so there was no reason to forgive you. What you were going through was hard enough without me putting anything on it. And knowing that was hard, often my thing was to stay a little clear of you so that I wouldn’t reflect it back to you, because when you see me look at you, inside you’d go, \u201cOh God, he sees that I’m failing.\u201d So, then you’d be using me physically to hit yourself. Well, that’s not my job either, so I stay away often when people are in that, so they also don’t get to use me to beat themselves. I’ve done nothing but walk in and say, \u201cHello, how are you?\u201d and I walk out and they have a week of how bad they are. Nevertheless, I’m here, so I run into people.<\/em><\/p>\n

Now some people say, \u201cOh God, he came in, I’ll bet you that’s disappearing and going away.\u201d That also takes place. What’s allowed to be lifted away it’ll certainly do it. But if it’s not allowed to be lifted away, it doesn’t mean that I’m not going to still love and care and stand there with the person and go with them as much as I can through that. But the decision of how fast to relieve karma from you or to take something away that you’re learning from, has to be based on your spiritual experience, not mine. If we take away a person’s suffering too soon, they don’t learn. Sometimes they have to get down to being sick and tired of being sick and tired. And then they’ll hand it to you. You don’t have to take it away.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nLiving in Grace Retreat, March 1990<\/p>\n

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If God created us and said, \u201cYou’re going to go down there and experiment,\u201d you’re probably going to be in the dark about what you’re creating for a long time. One day you go, \u201cAha! Eureka! There it is!\u201d and you feel great. Then you go back into darkness for a long time. The darkness is the unconscious and out of that unconscious comes chaos, and out of chaos comes creation, and out of creation comes confusion, or cooperation. If you stop the confusion it starts to move ahead in its timing, and you flow with life. God, that’s so nice! For those are the days when you know God is in the Kingdom of Heaven inside of you, and God is functioning as you and you are God because you are functioning as that, and the joy is just unboundedly full. Once you tap that Soul energy and that joy comes up, do you know it’s amazing what you forgive in your worst enemy? You forgive them everything.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, May 1990<\/p>\n

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If I digress off what the Spirit flow is, it does not wait. If you people are going down the path of life, you’d better keep on your path. I don’t look back to see who’s following. I’ll tell you why. I’m too busy watching where I’m going. Every time I’ve looked back or to the side, or tried to be the savior of everybody, I fell down and got terribly hurt. Then I said, \u201cListen, if you’re going where I’m going, if you’re in front I’ll keep my eye on you, because I’ve learned to miss a lot of holes and mud by watching how people stepped in.\u201d I step around it. So, it’s nice to have someone out there. But don’t look back because if I can’t make it, don’t let me stop you. And I don’t look back. If you’re going in your movement of spiritual inner awareness, please do not look back. One of the great teachings that the negative power taught us in scriptural rendition was when Lot took his wife and was leaving and he said, \u201cDo not look back!\u201d And by golly, she had to make sure what she was leaving, and she got nailed to the spot. What you’re leaving, folks, is well left.<\/em><\/p>\n

Once you do anything, once you’ve finished your Spiritual Exercises, don’t look back at those s.e.’s. Let it keep coming forward in your consciousness. It will. If it’s for you here in this physical material world, it will bring itself into the Spirit. It doesn’t come out of this backwards. It actually is always present. You’re remembering back a few days ago and it’s right here in front of you because it’s always there.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, May 1990<\/p>\n

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If you have something with your neighbor that you don’t like, don’t go tell the neighborhood. Go tell your neighbor. They’re the ones who can rectify that. Do you know how easy it is to rectify? They go, \u201cOh my Lord. I didn’t know that hurt you. I wouldn’t have done that to hurt you,\u201d and you’re starting to heal. All you ever wanted to know is that people love you, and that God loves you, and the most important, that you love you. But you don’t know you love you if you \u201csleep with the pigs.\u201d And you don’t know you love you if you entertain thoughts of negative destruction and the hatefulness and hatred toward someone.<\/em><\/p>\n

And when one of your children is doing something in their life that you don’t think is the norm or the way it should be done, and you know it’s going to be hard for them to do that, have compassion knowing that they also know it’s going to be hard to do it, and they may also not want to do it, and they’re going to have to do it because that’s the way karma goes. And karma is crazy and it’s stupid and it doesn’t care. But do you know what? They really want to know the same thing we want to know from God. It’s, \u201cLord, with all the terrible things I’ve done, with all the hurts that I’ve done, with all the hurts that are attributed to me that I don’t know about, do you still love me?\u201d And he said through scriptures, \u201cI take you where I find you.\u201d Jesus Christ was born in a manger among animals to signify that you start where you awaken and go from there.<\/em><\/p>\n

– John-Roger
\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, May 1990<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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