{"id":15752,"date":"2015-09-15T12:26:58","date_gmt":"2015-09-15T19:26:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/?p=15752"},"modified":"2016-06-07T14:55:57","modified_gmt":"2016-06-07T21:55:57","slug":"john-roger-quotes-on-resurrection","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/15752-john-roger-quotes-on-resurrection","title":{"rendered":"John-Roger Quotes on Resurrection"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong> How can I relate to the idea of the crucifixion and resurrection in my daily life?<\/p>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> Become an eager eater and dissolve everything that comes your way. I think when you\u2019ve done that, you will have entered into the resurrection. The resurrection is not an end process. It is an ongoing, every day, every second, every moment, resurrecting process. You give up the past to get to the new moment, and you do it with a willingness to do that with the most joy you can find, or the most profound love that can be there.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> There was a dead fellow in the Bible and his name was Lazarus, and his sister wanted Jesus to come and help him, but when he got there the fellow had been buried for a few days. She said, \u201cWell, in the future he will be resurrected,\u201d and Jesus said, \u201cWhat do you mean \u2018the future?\u2019 I am the Resurrection and the life right now.\u201d Don\u2019t live for future date, live now. Now is it. That\u2019s really a very profound statement. Don\u2019t worry about the future, don\u2019t worry about the dead.. Here it is, this is where it\u2019s at. That statement of truth is valid even now at this time, so that that worries about the Second Coming of Jesus have missed the continual coming.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> At some point, I or someone else will crucify my Christ self. When that happens, someone who also has undergone the crucifixion and the resurrection will come forward, look into your eyes, call forward the Christ out of the burial tomb, and resurrect it where it sits behind the eyes. The Christ is still in its tomb because it\u2019s in the head, but it must be freed from that so it floods the entire being. This is who we truly are.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> The challenge now of the resurrection is: Can we bring lightness into the darkness around us? No one\u2019s going to own up to perceiving darkness, or being in dark. We all like enlightenment, but who goes for \u201cendarkenment?\u201d It\u2019s not popular. By the very nature of what we do, we\u2019re accruing debts and karma from which we\u2019re unable to mend. There are too many broken hearts in the world, too many things that we\u2019ve done that we can\u2019t undo. How are we going to undo all that? It\u2019s past, they\u2019re dead, they\u2019re gone, and we\u2019re here. So how do we forgive? I know of one way, a very simple way, and that\u2019s just to be held, to let somebody hold you until that\u2019s broken free. Jesus sat on the side of a mountain and looking at Jerusalem and said, \u201cI would have held you. I would have nurtured you. You wouldn\u2019t let me.\u201d So what\u2019s our responsibility now? We\u2019ve got to step forward into that in order to be held. If He were to appear, would you allow him to hold you? But he said something else also very interesting: \u201cThis that I do, you\u2019ll do, and even greater. Because I\u2019m going to do go to the Father.\u201d<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> Some people think that it was Jesus\u2019 death that brought forward forgiveness as a mechanism to get back to God. Actually, though, it was his resurrection that did it all. The resurrection, the transformation, is what is taking care of all the \u201csin\u201d.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> The man, Jesus, seemed like any other man. And the Christ is the essence of God in every person. All the trials and tribulations, the training and the discipline that Jesus went through were the demonstration that he was part of these earthly patterns. Jesus brought forward, demonstrated, and completely fulfilled the ancient law of Moses\u2014which reads \u201can eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.\u201d Jesus foreordained even his own sacrifice, and so demonstrated that mankind must perpetually sacrifice the illusions of the physical-material world in order to gain the reality of the spiritual world. In the fulfillment of the law of Moses, Jesus dissolved that law for those who would follow the Christ, and he instituted the law of grace. Through grace, the form of Jesus the man was resurrected as the Christ, as the extension of God almighty, as universal consciousness.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> To those who would follow the Christ, Jesus gave the keys to overcome darkness, freed us from our own ignorance, and proclaimed that those who would call upon his name could not be denied the existence of Light. And so he broke the chains of hell and purgatory and extended to all who follow the Christ consciousness the grace to move from the despair and darkness of their own bondage and imprisonment, into the Light that is the Christ within, into the soul as it transcends all the lower realms and realizes its own joy, beauty, and perfection. The resurrection of the Christ is the transcendence of the soul.<\/p>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> When Jesus said, \u201cI am the resurrection and the Life,\u201d [John 11:25] the resurrection means a right now process. So a Christ action is a right now process. It comes upon you without you knowing the time or the season. It comes without anybody telling you. It comes as it comes.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15754\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/ndh_2015_09_page56crop.jpg\" alt=\"ndh_2015_09_page56crop\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong> What is the relationship of Jesus the Christ who lived two thousand years ago to the Christ Consciousness that is here today?<\/p>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> We all have access to the Christ Consciousness today because the Christ said this was possible. And as soon as you say, \u201cI believe,\u201d you\u2019re halfway there. The other half is to demonstrate it. Prior to the time that Jesus entered into the sacrifice, the negative powers confined man to the lower realms of Light. People were confined into the physical, causal, astral, mental, and etheric realms; they could not get back into the Soul Realm, back to God. The cosmic Mirror, which divides the etheric and Soul realms, always reflected man back into the lower reams so that he kept reincarnating back. Jesus came through from pure Spirit and bridged from the positive into negative. In this bridging, he came down into the negative realms and told the negative forces that any human consciousness<br \/>\non any of these lower levels who turns towards God and Light and Purity cannot be denied that turn and that movement. The Bible says it in different words; it says that Jesus unshackled, that He started the resurrection \u2014 not just of the physical, but of the whole, total process. This is why He is like one of the great hinges on the door of this dispensation into which we are moving. Buddha was also a hinge on the door, as was Moses and Abraham and many others. But I took at Jesus as being the top hinge. However, without all the other hinges on the door, Jesus\u2019 work would have been fruitless. We are also hinges on the door; we\u2019re also the door and the bridge on the other side of the door and we get to walk across the bridge. That\u2019s our job in this time. We chose it, everyone of us. The key is to do it.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> Your Christ Consciousness will bring you into a position where you can enter into your own Self awareness, into your own Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness. It will bring you to the point at which you become the Messiah, the Promised One. You become the Alpha and Omega from everlasting to everlasting\u2014because you already are. To me, that is the greatest heritage of the Christ Mass or Christmas as we celebrate it. We\u2019re actually celebrating our own birth. We\u2019re celebrating our own resurrection. We\u2019re celebrating triumphantly our own movement back into our own Self or Christ Consciousness. In fact, many of us are rushing into it, arms and heart wide open, full of love and knowing not one thing is coming our way we can\u2019t handle.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> Why would Jesus call Lazarus out of a grave back into physical body life? Why would he raise his own body out of that into a physical body life? Because you don\u2019t get to heaven by dying. It\u2019s really simple. You get to heaven by living. And this level is the springboard to that place\u2014right here. Jesus was proving that at the time of the resurrection.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> Jesus was doing initiations. He didn\u2019t do baptisms. Baptisms were done by John the Baptist. There\u2019s no place where it says that Jesus took them and immersed them in water. But his disciples were baptizing as part of the doctrinal statement of John the Baptist that Jesus supported and upheld. When he did the initiations, it was very similar in that people would lie in a tomb, like Lazarus, or they would symbolically lie down with nothing on. They would go into the grave as the womb. They might be placed in a box, or a sheet or something similar was placed over the top of them. And then as they were being initiated into the Sound Current, they would resurrect out of that. And they would then be a new person, a new creature in Christ.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-15755\" src=\"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/ndh_2015_09_page60crop.jpg\" alt=\"ndh_2015_09_page60crop\" width=\"100%\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Question:<\/strong> What does it mean in the New Testament when it speaks of the dead in Christ arriving at the last trumpet and resurrecting from the grave, and \u201cif a man believe in me he shall never die?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>J-R:<\/strong> As a man (and woman) believeth in his heart, that is eternal life. Of course we\u2019re talking about the metaphorical heart, and even then, it\u2019s more than just believing on a word-level, it\u2019s a matter of living that belief as an expression of your next breath. The beauty of your body will die but the beauty of your Soul lives on.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>This article was published in the <strong>September | October 2015<\/strong> edition of the New Day Herald Online Magazine, available via <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/issuu.com\/msiaorg\/docs\/ndh_2015_09\" target=\"_blank\">ISSUU<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Browse the magazine below by using right and left arrows. Simply click a page to read the full article.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Question: How can I relate to the idea of the crucifixion and resurrection in my daily life? J-R: Become an eager eater and dissolve everything that comes your way. I think when you\u2019ve done that, you will have entered into the resurrection. The resurrection is not an end process. 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