{"id":88823,"date":"2017-09-13T04:47:38","date_gmt":"2017-09-13T11:47:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/88823-dreaming-for-the-good-awakening-to-our-souls-copy"},"modified":"2017-09-15T14:30:08","modified_gmt":"2017-09-15T21:30:08","slug":"an-interview-with-ron-and-mary-hulnick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/88823-an-interview-with-ron-and-mary-hulnick","title":{"rendered":"An Interview with Ron and Mary Hulnick"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>NAT:<\/strong>\u00a0Ron and Mary, can you share about the changes happening at the University of Santa Monica (USM), your vision for USM\u2019s future, and most of all, what on earth is Spiritual Psychology anyway?<\/p>\n<p><strong>R&amp;M:<\/strong> We\u2019d love to, and we\u2019d like to start by acknowledging that for us, it all began in 1978 when we first met John-Roger. At the time, we were both on the faculty of New Mexico State University in the Department of Counseling and Educational Psychology where we were training professional counselors at the master\u2019s and doctoral levels. Needless to say, that first meeting was a tremendous convergence, and for the next two years, we had a continuing dialogue with J-R about educational philosophy and the importance of practical mastery education. Not surprisingly, we shared a dream of enlivening, relevant, heart-centered education and, based on that common dream, committed to working together to bring forward an educational institution based on these values-centered precepts.<\/p>\n<p>And so, the first programs began in 1980, and for the past 35 years, we\u2019ve been continually developing a very unique form of education\u2014unique in that it\u2019s built not so much upon learning information, which is really \u201clearning about,\u201d but rather on true learning, which is \u201clearning by doing.\u201d In other words, <em>experiential education<\/em> purposefully engages students in learning through direct experience and focused reflection in order to increase awareness, develop skills, clarify values, and develop people&#8217;s capacity to make a meaningful contribution to their communities.<\/p>\n<p>When you pair <em>experiential education<\/em> with a <em>Spiritual perspective,<\/em> you have what we refer to as <em>Soul-Centered Education,<\/em> which is both sacred and relevant. It\u2019s education that inspires, heals, and transforms. It\u2019s the education that serves the greater Spiritual Awakening that is taking place on the planet at this time. And best of all, it\u2019s fun! As USM Founder John-Roger put it, it\u2019s truly education the way you always wished it would be. It\u2019s what we\u2019ve been doing and will be continuing to do.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NAT:<\/strong> So what is it that\u2019s changing?<\/p>\n<p><strong>R&amp;M:<\/strong> Only the form. And it\u2019s so interesting that this shift was really instigated by changes at the U.S. Department of Education that had the effect of changing the way credit hours were to be counted in awarding degrees. The new regulations would only count experiential education at half the credit value of didactic, or lecture, hours. And thus, we had to decide to either replace a considerable number of experiential hours with lecture hours or extend each weekend by an additional day.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NAT:<\/strong> Wow\u2014that\u2019s really something. I suspect this distinction is something hardly anyone knows.<\/p>\n<p><strong>R&amp;M:<\/strong> We suspect you\u2019re right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NAT:<\/strong> So what did you do?<\/p>\n<p><strong>R&amp;M:<\/strong> We prayed a lot! And after many times of placing the decision in the Light, heartfelt prayers for Spirit\u2019s guidance, and conferring with USM\u2019s Board of Trustees and USM\u2019s Chancellor, we decided that it was for the Highest Good to simply let go of degreed programs and move forward converting USM\u2019s offerings into Certificate of Completion Programs. And this is exactly what we\u2019ve done.<\/p>\n<p>In the academic year that completed August 31, USM offered <em>Soul-Centered Living I: A 10-month Certificate of Completion Program (SCL I),<\/em> and the 7-month <em>Soul-Centered Professional Coaching Program.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In February, we offered the ever-popular <em>Couples Workshop: The Heart and Art of Relationship,<\/em> an event that is open to the public. We also designed and delivered a brand-new offering for USM grads called <em>Advanced Spiritual Psychology: Transcending the Deeper Levels<\/em>\u2014a three-part series. It\u2019s very enlivening for us to offer the deeper levels of this work designed to support participants in <em><strong>Awakening<\/strong><\/em> into the Awareness that they are nothing less than the Presence of Love.<\/p>\n<p>In August, we offered the <em>Loyalty to Your Soul Weekend Workshop,<\/em> based on our book by the same title. This is very popular and an excellent introduction to the Principles and Practices of Spiritual Psychology. It\u2019s also a wonderful refresher for USM students and grads. This year, nine women from Mexico City chose to join us for the weekend. Their enthusiasm for the work was inspiring. Perhaps this will lead to USM events in Mexico City.<\/p>\n<p>This fall, it is our intention to offer:\u00a0This fall, it is our intention to offer:<br \/>\n<em>Soul-Centered Living: A 10-Month Certificate Program in Spiritual Psychology<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"issuuembed\" style=\"width: 100%; height: 470px;\" data-configid=\"18372034\/48919747\"><\/div>\n<p><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"\/\/e.issuu.com\/embed.js\" async=\"true\"><\/script><br \/>\nand<\/p>\n<p><em>Consciousness Health, and Healing: A 10-Month Certificate Program in Advanced Spiritual Psychology<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"issuuembed\" style=\"width: 100%; height: 480px;\" data-configid=\"18372034\/49191652\"><\/div>\n<p><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"\/\/e.issuu.com\/embed.js\" async=\"true\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Enrollment for both classes is currently at a record high, and we are looking forward to facilitating these two Programs, as it will be the last time that the two of us will be the lead facilitators in these events.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NAT:<\/strong> And what would you say is the result of the change from degree offerings to Certificate of Completions offerings?<\/p>\n<p><strong>R&amp;M:<\/strong> We are grateful to share that USM is alive and well. There\u2019s a great freedom that has emerged in being released from the academic format and all that was required to maintain it. We are now free to focus very directly on Spiritual Awakening and the deep healing available through the beautiful Spiritual energy field that is the Soul of USM. Not surprisingly, the quality of experience in the classroom has remained as high, if not higher. And why not? After all, we\u2019re continuing to grow along with everyone else, and this is reflected in the life-changing quality of life our grads continue to report just as the students before them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NAT:<\/strong> And your vision for USM\u2019s future?<\/p>\n<p><strong>R&amp;M:<\/strong> As we see it, moving forward will mean spending more time mentoring USM graduates in taking their USM education and sharing the Principles and Practices of Spiritual Psychology with others in a variety of different contexts. For example, David and Bonnie Paul have been using their USM-learned Principles and Practices with great success in the <em>Freedom to Choose Workshop <\/em>in prisons in California.<\/p>\n<p>On September 16 and 17, USM grads, Kirk Souder and Licia Rester-Frazee, will be facilitating <em>Soul Purpose 2017, <\/em>a new USM workshop for business leaders who are experiencing a calling to use their gifts, abilities, and experience in service to co-creating endeavors of greater meaning, social impact, and fulfillment.<\/p>\n<p>For more than three decades, USM graduates have used their transformation in consciousness to actively transform the worlds of business, medicine, media, coaching, law, education, family, and more. We currently have a grad who has thrown her hat in the ring, seeking to be elected as the governor of her state.<\/p>\n<p>We see ourselves working with grads on developing Programs that will enhance and support the worldwide outreach of the Principles and Practices of Spiritual Psychology, as we know experientially just how powerful and freeing these Principles and Practices are.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NAT: <\/strong>And that brings us to perhaps the most essential question. Just what is Spiritual Psychology and why do you perceive it as so important and valuable.<\/p>\n<p><strong>R&amp;M: <\/strong>Briefly, Spiritual Psychology is the study and practice of Conscious Awakening, which begins with the awareness that we simultaneously reside in two worlds. The one we are most familiar with is known as physical world reality. It\u2019s the world of our everyday existence, and we know it through our five senses.<\/p>\n<p>However, there is another reality beyond five-sense reality that is multidimensional and spiritual in nature. For our purposes, we define Awakening as waking up into this \u201cother\u201d reality where we experience our Essential Spiritual Nature as Loving, Peaceful, Joyful, Free, Enthusiastic, Beautiful, Creative, Wise, and more!<\/p>\n<p>For example, when most people become upset, they blame their disturbance on some outside event that has happened and is beyond their control. The way they voice this is by the phrase, \u201cI am upset because . . . \u201c and then they tell you what they perceive as responsible for their disturbance.<\/p>\n<p>In Spiritual Psychology, we have found that it\u2019s much more empowering, as well as resulting in much more positive outcomes, when people learn how to take responsibility for what they\u2019re experiencing independent of whatever is happening \u201cout there.\u201d After all, the experience they are having is happening within their own consciousness. What if there was a way to relieve the inner disturbance such that they would no longer experience disturbance regardless of the outer circumstance? Moreover, if this were possible and they did release the emotional disturbance, they\u2019d be much more effective at dealing with the original situation that \u201cseems\u201d to have \u201ccaused\u201d the upset. As we see it, a more accurate description is that, rather than \u201ccause\u201d the upset, the outer event merely \u201ctriggered\u201d the upset already present within the person\u2019s consciousness.<\/p>\n<p>And here\u2019s the best part. Since Spiritual Psychology, as we practice and teach it at USM, is experientially based, a person need not take anything on faith nor have any particular beliefs. All that\u2019s really required is an open mind so that one\u2019s process can be validated by one\u2019s own personal experience. We\u2019d say, on the basis of more than 5,500 graduates over the past 35 years, that it\u2019s proven itself to be effective. And the best news is that no one needs to take our word for it. They can come and experience it for themselves and then decide whether or not they wish to go into it more deeply.<\/p>\n<p>Awakening into the Awareness of who you truly are and living your life from within that Awakened state is the essence of Soul-Centered Living. As the evolutionary tide is rising and larger numbers of people are Awakening to the Awareness that they are, in fact, Divine Beings having and using a human experience, the Principles and Practices of Spiritual Psychology provide both context and tools for living into that Awareness.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, our latest book, <a href=\"https:\/\/ronandmaryhulnick.com\/\"><em>Remembering the Light Within: A Course in Soul-Centered Living <\/em><\/a>published by Hay House in February 2017, is an excellent resource (and we might add, an enjoyable read) for someone who would like to learn and apply these tools in their everyday life.<\/p>\n<p><strong>NAT:<\/strong> Now that is really inspiring. Ron and Mary, it\u2019s not only been a pleasure but enlightening as well to have this conversation with you. My wish and prayers are for the continued success of both you and USM.<\/p>\n<p><strong>R&amp;M:<\/strong> Thanks, Nat. As always, it\u2019s a pleasure and a privilege talking with you. 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