{"id":90412,"date":"2018-05-15T14:38:21","date_gmt":"2018-05-15T21:38:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/?p=90412"},"modified":"2021-02-25T13:16:18","modified_gmt":"2021-02-25T21:16:18","slug":"poetry-spirit-interview-robert-peake","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.msia.org\/newdayherald\/archives\/90412-poetry-spirit-interview-robert-peake","title":{"rendered":"On Poetry and Spirit, <br\/>An Interview with Robert Peake"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On May 2nd, I spoke with award-winning poet and MSIA student, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.robertpeake.com\/\">Robert Peake<\/a>. We explored the ways that creative process and spiritual practice come together in our lives and talked about taking courage in the everyday moments of showing up. Read on for practical tools, encouragement, and some mighty fine poetry!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here is the video recording of our conversation. I highly recommend listening to the recording where you\u2019ll get to hear Robert read one of his poems, <em>Self Study<\/em>. Below the video, you\u2019ll find the complete transcript of the interview, at the end of which is another poem: <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Credo<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n\t\t<!-- Start of Brightcove Player -->\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div style=\"display: block; position: relative; min-width: 0px; max-width: 640px;\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div style=\"padding-top: 56%; \">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<video-js\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tid=\"6062017120001\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tdata-video-id=\"6062017120001\" data-account=\"6057277728001\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tdata-player=\"HWP2atHHW\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tdata-usage=\"cms:WordPress:6.9.1:2.8.4:javascript\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tdata-embed=\"default\" class=\"video-js\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tdata-application-id=\"\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tcontrols   \t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tstyle=\"width: 100%; height: 100%; position: absolute; top: 0; bottom: 0; right: 0; left: 0;\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/video-js>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<script src=\"https:\/\/players.brightcove.net\/6057277728001\/HWP2atHHW_default\/index.min.js\"><\/script> \t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<!-- End of Brightcove Player -->\n\t\t\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: You\u2019re a poet and your a student of MSIA and a minister. Let\u2019s talk about those things. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: \u00a0Wonderful, I think you provisionally titled this something to do with creative process and spiritual practice, is that right?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: Yeah, that\u2019s nice.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: I like that. And there is also creative practice and spiritual process. They both go together very nicely because to me creativity is a practice and a discipline. In that great way that J-R defined as being a disciple of something.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They marry up really nicely in my case, and I think to some extent based on what I know about your life, for you as well. I\u2019d love to hear how that\u2019s working for you too. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The foundations of my life, a couple of them, are doing my SEs and sitting down to write and those are feeding different parts of me and are both very important. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think the common denominator in all of that is showing up. Showing up, meaning being available to what\u2019s there. And not always receiving the expected results and that\u2019s the part where it\u2019s a process rather than about a product. If every time my SES were amazing and if every time I sat down and a wonderful poem showed up, that would be nice and I\u2019m open to that possibility, but I\u2019m open to that possibility every time I sit down rather than expecting that that\u2019s always going to be the case. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, to me, it\u2019s more about showing up and coming from a place of being receptive and having my heart there and also having reference points in the past of wonderful things having shown up and reaffirming those and going on that basis. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s a brief sketch of how I see the theme that you laid out in terms of how [Creativity and Spirituality] in terms of the process part of it &#8211; being process focused. And the practice part of it which allows the focus on the process. It\u2019s practicing with a focus on process rather than practicing with the expectation of particular results.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: I\u2019m thinking about what you said about showing up to write and showing up to do Spiritual Exercises and just being available to that. Like \u201chere I am,\u201d and you don\u2019t know what\u2019s going to come. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: Yeah, And you start with wherever you are. With the writing process I start with whatever\u2019s around. Whatever\u2019s available. However I am and wherever I am. Basically, it\u2019s those two things. I\u2019m looking out the window right now that I normally look out of and a lot of the poems start with something out the window &#8211; the cat or a bird or a tree or something &#8211; but I don\u2019t always end up there. And the beginning of a poem, the beginning of a draft, doesn\u2019t always make it into the final edit. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And likewise, the first few minutes of my mind going all over the place in SEs isn\u2019t necessarily the most fruitful part of my inner experience. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think there is something about sitting down, holding an intention, holding a focus that in and of itself is really valuable. And the more I can extend that into showing up and not having expectations against life itself, the better things go for me &#8211; kind of easier said than done. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s one of the things that creative practice teaches me because there are constant surprises and you don\u2019t really know quite where this stuff comes from. And that\u2019s exciting because with a lot of the material facts of life you do kind of have a sense of how things are going to go. And you\u2019re a lot more constrained here, whereas in the imagination and the other places that you go to in the creative world, you are free, you\u2019re a lot more free. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I experience that to, the more I get in touch with what\u2019s true inside, you\u2019re free, you\u2019re not conditioned or constrained to a lot of particular things that sometimes go into routines, patterns or habits. It\u2019s that sense of anything\u2019s possible. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s what draws me to art, in general &#8211; all the different form that art takes. And that\u2019s maybe part of what we like about taking in a piece of art. That if it\u2019s done in that more unconditioned free place, then unexpected, wonderful things show up. Not only in the quality of it, but in the newness of it, and it brings us into the moment &#8211; it brings us present. Which is what\u2019s wonderful about being able to engage with art, it\u2019s being able to come really present with something because it was created with presence and created with intention and created with that sense of newness and freedom in the artist. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: You talked about Spiritual Exercises and creative practice and showing up to write and you talked about life. How does one relate to the other in your experience? What does poetry do to you when you\u2019re not writing? Does that make sense?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: It does, it makes a lot of sense. One of my greatest teachers of the poetic practice, I came to when he was coming up to his seventies and had been practicing poetry and engaging with poetry since he was a very young man. His advice was, \u201cBe a poet every day.\u201d He said, \u201cWhether or not you write every day, be a poet every day.\u201d My experience was that I saw him demonstrating that and doing that and living that. It wasn\u2019t just a platitude or nice words or something that he was saying to be clever. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I studied this guy very carefully because there was a twinkle in his eye that I had seen. And I had also seen with someone like J-R. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What it means to me and what I\u2019ve come to understand about being a poet every day is that there\u2019s a quality of observation and attention that I can give to my everyday life that helps me be more receptive to poetry &#8211; to the poetry around me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To me, SEs and studying the teachings [of MSIA] works similarly. It\u2019s being involved with what\u2019s going on but not being consumed by it. Being in the world but not necessarily being of it is a really nice place to be when I can let myself get there and be there and reside there more often.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think there\u2019s a lot of similarity [between poetry and studying the teachings] if you really take on the idea of noticing and being present with what is and being available and receptive to the ways in which that\u2019s interesting and moving. [Paul] \u00c9luard said, \u201cthere\u2019s another world, and it\u2019s in this one.\u201d I think as we attune more to the other worlds, as it were, we realize that there\u2019s a lot more going on than the circumstances of how life is playing out. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I don\u2019t know if that helps answer your question but I do relate to the idea that being a student of the Traveler isn\u2019t just a component of my life that I do first thing in the morning when I do my SEs and then that\u2019s it. It\u2019s wanting and choosing to be a student of everything that comes my way and part of that, for me, is being a poet every day and being engaged with that whether or not I\u2019m in front of the keyboard writing something. The more I do that, the better things go for me, the more there\u2019s a sense of magic and wonder, a quality of attention about life that makes life really worthwhile and worth doing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: Does an example come to mind of when you experienced being a poet when you weren\u2019t writing?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: Oh, lots. Lots of little examples. Often they coincide with the Light being present and mostly they are pretty mundane things. Mostly they are noticing something about a conversation on a commuter train or noticing something about the way a parent is paying attention to their child in a caf\u00e9. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">They\u2019re not big things. They\u2019re not grand things. It\u2019s not really anything more than being present to what\u2019s probably going on all the time. But being in that receptive state to it. I like to say that my experience of poetry is that it happens, rather than we make it happen. The pursuit of engaging with <\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">poetry &#8211; reading it, writing it &#8211; to me is a pursuit of those moments when poetry happens. When that something transcendent shows up and takes place <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And it doesn\u2019t always. In fact, a lot of the time, we\u2019re chasing after this thing and it doesn\u2019t really show up, it doesn\u2019t quite land, it doesn\u2019t quite work, It doesn\u2019t quite do that thing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Emily Dickinson said, \u201cWhen I read a poem, when I know it\u2019s a real poem, the top of my head has been taken off.\u201d I think that\u2019s great. And it also matches the spiritual experience, where you go, \u201cwow, that kind of blew my mind.\u201d That got me out of all these patterns and all of these other things that I do and into a place and a space where things are much bigger than they seem. That can happen in a lot of places and a lot of ways, in my experience, when you\u2019re open to it. And even in the arts, it\u2019s not a guaranteed thing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Also, I can be in a more receptive state and read the same poem that I\u2019ve read a number of times and get something new &#8211; a new experience from it. That reminds me of the [Soul Awareness] Discourse experience of being in a different place or a different level of understanding and reading something and it\u2019s almost like it didn\u2019t exist before and now it does.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Poetry happens, I think, a lot more than I\u2019m aware. But being willing and being open and being available to both the writing and the relating to it in ways that are new is the fun. Right? You\u2019re chasing after that thing where you feel like the top of your head has been taken off and suddenly there\u2019s more space to go up, to be available, to transcend the limits of everyday life. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: Do you have anything you want to read? Do you have a poem handy?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: [Laughs] Let\u2019s see if I can find something that you might like. What I do is I keep everything in one document (I back it up of course). I have poems from years and years and years.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I keep all my work in one document and what I do is I write the date and then I start writing. That way there is this sense of continuity. We talked about showing up and it\u2019s also part of being in the flow.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Another great thing that my mentor said to me, Marvin Bell, is \u201cthat the good stuff and the bad stuff is all part of the stuff &#8211; no good stuff without bad stuff,\u201d meaning, you just gotta write. And you gotta write through the hard times and you gotta write through the uninspired times, you just gotta keep showing up and doing it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One of the things that I started doing recently for my health is jogging. I started to see parallels between jogging and writing. The phrase that I came up with is, \u201cwinter makes a jogger,\u201d and \u201cwriter\u2019s block makes a writer.\u201d So if you want to know if you\u2019re a writer or not, write through a bunch of writer\u2019s block. Keep going. And if you can do that. If you can persevere. If you can carry on, then that\u2019s who you are &#8211; someone who can persevere through the bad stuff knowing that good stuff is around the corner. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s another thing that marries up with my understanding of what life\u2019s about through the teachings of MSIA which is, keep going. Endure. Hang in there. There is no good life without some difficult stuff coming through as well. Poetry is a place where there are very particular and concerted lessons like that for me. It really reflects that [endurance] clearly. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, \u201cwriter\u2019s block makes a writer,\u201d which is why giving myself permission to just start anywhere, to write bad stuff, to keep writing, to carry on, allows me to then bring forward the stuff that at least I like from time to time. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: How do you know when you like something? How do you know when you\u2019re writing and, it\u2019s good?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: Well, there\u2019s the white-hot heat. The moment where you\u2019re inspired. When you read back what you\u2019ve written, you read, in a sense, what you meant. You read what the inspiration was rather than just what\u2019s there on the page. But another reader, someone else, is just going to read back what\u2019s on the page. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When I\u2019m done with a poem, and I know it worked, that it was something, I always sleep on it. A minimum of one night. And I wake up and re-approach it to see it in a different frame of mind, being a different person moment-to-moment. Does that still communicate? Does that still work? Does that still get me back into that place that I was in when I was inspired to write it? And that\u2019s not always the case. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A lot of what I do in the revising process is about, \u201cHow do I make this communicate again? How do I bring this more into alignment with the vision that I had for what I wanted it to be when I first was in that place of writing it?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m still looking for a poem.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: While you\u2019re looking, how many years of writing do you have there in that document? I want to know all about this document.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: Yeah, so let\u2019s see, June 2008 is the first timestamp on this so it\u2019s almost 10 years. And as I said, it\u2019s backed up in several different places. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[The document] has been a great symbolic representation that it\u2019s about being in the flow, that it\u2019s about a continuity. In a way, poetry is a continuous self-portrait. [The document] is also a trick to get over the intimidation involved with the blank page, with staring at a blank page and going, \u201cOK, I\u2019m at the beginning again\u2026\u201d No, you\u2019re not at the beginning, you\u2019re in a flow and a continuity. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019ll go back and I\u2019ll raid previous stuff and I\u2019ll look back at what I\u2019ve written and bring it down. That\u2019s part of the process too. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: When you sit down to write do you give yourself a certain amount of time? What are the parameters of your practice?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ROBERT: What I do is the first thing in the morning, well not first thing, but very early in the morning, before work. &#8211; preferably before I\u2019ve opened up my emails. It\u2019s me time. It\u2019s time where I\u2019m not meeting other people\u2019s demands, I\u2019m meeting my own needs. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So it\u2019s usually after SEs but before the day gets going, which means that I have a start time, I do have some parameters there, which is good. [Poetry] is not the kind of art that you can engage with in terms of actually writing all day long productively. Having some parameters on it, having a time constraint is actually a good thing. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Other constraints are good too: for me, for the creative process because they create a sense challenge for the mind. A lot of my poems begin with prompts: include some random words, include this, that, or the other. Sometimes as I\u2019m writing I\u2019ll see that it starts to shape up into a particular poetic form and that too creates some demand on the language and some demand on the choices that I make. That generally improves the quality of the work. That blank page, open canvas, anything\u2019s possible thing shuts down the creativity so it\u2019s more about working within form and constraint a lot of the time to bring about that sense of freedom. It\u2019s a fun paradox, I think.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So here\u2019s a poem&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Editor\u2019s note: for Robert\u2019s reading of his poem, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Self Study,<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> watch the video above. <em>Credo <\/em>(below) was originally published in Acumen]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Credo<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I believe in a blush in the thicket<br \/>\nthe gurgle-lute upstream<br \/>\nthe potentially legible scratchings,<br \/>\nvisible in mud, invisible in dust,<br \/>\nI believe in the pious scent of sap<br \/>\nharrowing bark to a sheen,<br \/>\nthe crumpled auburn leaf<br \/>\npedalling through variations,<br \/>\nlight from light, one substance,<br \/>\nthe scoop of a burnt-out oak.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I believe in the rain, the mist,<br \/>\nand the drizzle, glazing<br \/>\nthe white tops of mushrooms,<br \/>\nwhich are buried, and which rise<br \/>\nfrom the suffering of wood-rot,<br \/>\nfor their mycelium has no end.<br \/>\nI acknowledge autumn<br \/>\nfor the remission of chlorophyll,<br \/>\nand seek out the yellow blemish<br \/>\nof buds unfurling the world to come.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">DAVID: Thank you, Robert.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>Soul Awareness Discourses &#8211; A Course in Soul Transcendence<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Soul Awareness Discourses are for people who want a consistent, deeper approach to their own spiritual unfoldment. 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